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Re: Disable AI in Firefox

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post #22

Good to know. I tried to find an off switch in the settings for the AI junk when it first popped up and didn't find one. It's mostly unobtrusive, so didn't bother me too much, but it's nice to have a way to get rid of a feature I'm not going to use.

Yeah, just searching for "AI" in settings find some choices. eg "Use AI to suggest tabs and a name for tab groups" And far more false positives - eg dAIly

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#52
post #28

Mozilla could have had the no-nonsense, high performance browser backend that everyone uses to build their own browsers (like the recent glut of AI browsers), instead of everyone using Chromium/Blink. In the past, Gecko was really the go-to choice for this. They almost had a second shot with Servo. But they kinda really dropped the ball on the technical capability of the browser while continuing to be distracted by a…

> Mozilla could have had the no-nonsense, high performance browser backend that everyone uses to build their own browsers I agree with the sentiment, but you underestimate the level of engineering, coordination, design work, testing it is to do this. It is admirable that they even have a half-decent browser, but to compete at the top you need soooo much money and motivation.

> It is admirable that they even have a half-decent browser, but to compete at the top you need soooo much money and motivation.

Let's not forget the CEO who paid herself a $6.9m salary in 2022, $5.6m in 2023.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#53
The article is actually good. The title is a little click-baity even if that is actually what it covers. It is mostly about tweaking the AI options which is actually helpful as I don't mind some of the new features.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#54
post #46

Feels like people making a big deal out of it. You can also just, you know, not use these features. I can't remember the last time I use the "Print" dialog, the "Manage bookmarks" or the "Homepage" button. But these things don't have AI in their name, so people aren't so obsessed with removing them. IMHO just like many companies are obsessed with adding AI features, some users are obsessed with rejecting them. Both s…

Even if you don’t use them they still keep popping up popups which are distracting and make them violate WCAG for people with attention problems such as ADHD.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#55
post #6

To my surprise, in Librewolf this was also enabled. To how much effect, I wouldn't know (I hadn't noticed any shenanigans, then again, I just updated my librewolf and don't know if that brought it in).

I just checked my Librewolf settings for this and they were already disabled. Not sure why we had different experiences.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#56

Mozilla could have had the no-nonsense, high performance browser backend that everyone uses to build their own browsers (like the recent glut of AI browsers), instead of everyone using Chromium/Blink. In the past, Gecko was really the go-to choice for this. They almost had a second shot with Servo. But they kinda really dropped the ball on the technical capability of the browser while continuing to be distracted by a…

We had Netscape Navigator which began bloating after version 3 eventually becoming Netscape Communicator with various sorts of useless bullshit. When it became so fat it couldn't even start without causing machines to swap, I remember Phoenix came out - a lightweight, fast Mozilla browser. It was a godsend, an immediate hit. I remember all my friends switching to it when it was, like version 0.x, because it was so much faster. A proper no-bullshit WWW experience. Then Phoenix became Firefird, then Firefox. Now Firefox is the new Netscape. Cycle continues.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#57
Here's the link to the official archives of Firefox browser:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

You're on your own running these in the wild; at least use a few other layers of security protection. Later versions of Firefox will not run unsigned addons unless you're running a development build, without running it from the debugger page. (Maybe someone can chime in with a workaround.)

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#58
post #37
post #5

I've used Firefox for 15 years and I really don't want to use Chrome. Can Mozilla just, like, make a good browser?

I think they make a pretty good browser. It is performant, supports blocking ads easily, standard compatible, customizable and recently even added support for vertical tabs. What are you missing?

Personally (I’m not the person you asked) I’m missing AppleScript support. Firefox is the only major browser without it, and the bug report for it is old enough to drink in every country.

That lack of capability prevents it from being my daily driver, even if the rest were good enough (I’m not saying it isn’t, I’m saying I have no reason to find out).

I am certain I have inadvertently pushed many people away from Firefox for that reason alone, because when they ask for me to add Firefox support for my tools, I have to tell them it’s impossible.

I have tried to talk to Firefox developers about that a few times, at open-source conferences and such, but they think AppleScript is some power-user feature and fail (refuse?) to understand power users drive adoption and create tools that regular users rely on.

I remember whenever a Firefox story was submitted on HN, multiple people commented “I want to use Firefox but it’s missing ”. Then Mozilla started doing a lot of questionable stuff (all of which they eventually abandoned) outside their core competency and even pulling distasteful marketing stunts, and at some point people started commenting even that. I presume many got tired and gave up on Firefox entirely. I almost have. I now root for them only conceptually, because browser diversity is good.

I also noticed that no matter how politely someone pointed out on HN “Firefox doesn’t fit for me because of ”, they always got downvoted. If valid polite criticism is buried, no wonder things stay the way they are.

Re: Disable AI in Firefox

#59
post #41

I'm actually not all that opposed to some of these features, but the way it's implemented is so clunky. The UI make it feel like a half baked browser extension.

"automatically group and label your tabs" is the only thing out of those that sound at all interesting to me, though I don't know how AI comes into play here. And is it all local AI?
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