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Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by layer8 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #38
Forgeties79 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause when 5 launched. But it's back and worse than ever now. What a great point! I also can’t stand it. I get it’s basically a meme to point it out - even South Park has mocked it - but I just cannot stand it. In all seriousness it’s so annoying. It is a tool, not my friend, and considering we are already coming from a place of skepticism…

Drives me nuts too. All the stuff like "OK let me do..." Or "I agree ..." stop talking like a person. I want the star trek experience. The computer just says "working" and then gives you the answer without any chit-chat. And it doesn't refer to itself as if it's a person. What we have now is Hal 9000 before it went insane.

Setting ChatGPT personality to “Robot” pretty much does that for me.

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by cyanydeez »

SoftTalker wrote: post #38
Forgeties79 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause when 5 launched. But it's back and worse than ever now. What a great point! I also can’t stand it. I get it’s basically a meme to point it out - even South Park has mocked it - but I just cannot stand it. In all seriousness it’s so annoying. It is a tool, not my friend, and considering we are already coming from a place of skepticism…

Drives me nuts too. All the stuff like "OK let me do..." Or "I agree ..." stop talking like a person. I want the star trek experience. The computer just says "working" and then gives you the answer without any chit-chat. And it doesn't refer to itself as if it's a person. What we have now is Hal 9000 before it went insane.

Guys. It's basically because among the all well researched data, the amount of garbage is infinitely more.

If AI wants to be useful (it's not going to atm), real people need to cull all the banalities that facebook, reddit & forums have generated.

Because what you're noticing is things we typically elide over in discussions with actual humans.

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by cyanydeez »

SoftTalker wrote: post #21

I honestly can’t always distinguish AI slop from the formulaic corp-speak used in emails and memos and brochure websites and other marketing. I’m guessing that must be a large component of the training matter.

I'd say the majority of the training data is reddit with zero care about whether it's from a "good" or "sarcastic" or "ironic" source.

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by WASDx »

atourgates wrote: post #15

I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…

You can customize it to get rid of all that. I set it to the "Robot" personality and a custom instruction to "No fluff and politeness. Be short and get straight to the point. Don't overuse bold font for emphasis."

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by Forgeties79 »

cyanydeez wrote: post #52
SoftTalker wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drives me nuts too. All the stuff like "OK let me do..." Or "I agree ..." stop talking like a person. I want the star trek experience. The computer just says "working" and then gives you the answer without any chit-chat. And it doesn't refer to itself as if it's a person. What we have now is Hal 9000 before it went insane.

Guys. It's basically because among the all well researched data, the amount of garbage is infinitely more. If AI wants to be useful (it's not going to atm), real people need to cull all the banalities that facebook, reddit & forums have generated. Because what you're noticing is things we typically elide over in discussions with actual humans.

It is far more polite than any social media platform or forum I’ve ever seen lol

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by Bolwin »

growdark wrote: post #41

I'd love to see a benchmark that tests different LLMs for slop, not necessarily limited to code. That might be even more interesting than ARC-AGI.

See the writing benchmarks here https://eqbench.com/creative_writing_longform.html

Re: Antislop: A framework for eliminating repetitive patterns in language models

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Post by neoCrimeLabs »

atourgates wrote: post #15

I've been using ChatGPT fairly regularly for about a year. Mostly as an editor/brainstorming-partner/copy-reviewer. Lots of things have changed in that year, but the things that haven't are: * So, so many em-dashes. All over the place. (I've tried various ways to get it to stop. None of them have worked long term). * Random emojis. * Affirmations at the start of messages. ("That's a great idea!") With a brief pause w…

I am reasonably sure affirmations are a feature, not a bug. No matter how much I might disagree.
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