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Look, Another AI Browser

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Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by jay_kyburz »

bengoodger wrote: post #10

Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…

Full support for Ublock Origin. Perhaps at the native level rather than as an extension.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by jimbokun »

thelastgallon wrote: post #19

So, Atlas, Comet, Edge, Dia, Brave, Opera, etc are all Chromium. And any browser on iOS uses the safari engine under the hood? Looks like we are down to two browsers.

First, Chromium is also based on WebKit so that means really only one browser engine.

Second, I imagine so many web sites and web applications have, knowingly or unknowingly, made themselves dependent on WebKit or Chromium specific behavior, it's almost impossible to write a new browser compatible with all (or even most) of the web.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by stOneskull »

L3viathan wrote: post #33
thelastgallon wrote: post #19

So, Atlas, Comet, Edge, Dia, Brave, Opera, etc are all Chromium. And any browser on iOS uses the safari engine under the hood? Looks like we are down to two browsers.

Firefox still exists.

firefox is the best, and gemini in google search results is enough, for me.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by jimbokun »

glenstein wrote: post #34
ngruhn wrote: post #6

Most of what most people do, who sit 8h a day in front of a computer, is in the browser. So I see where this product idea is coming from...

It seems like for better or worse if you want to be a web company, there's a lot of incentive to try and become a platform. A limitation for the likes of Zoom, Dropbox, Proton, and seemingly OpenAI is they have to struggle to integrate with calendars, office suites, and even the browser itself. And it may be turning out to be true that it's more feasible to simply invent your own parallel ecosystem of benefits and of…

Building a successful platform has always been the winning move from the beginning of the computer industry.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by bigyabai »

mathieudombrock wrote: post #29
bengoodger wrote: post #10

Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…

I think Google has proven with their recent actions concerning android that they really can't be trusted with big, critical open source projects.

The Play Store services are not a critical open source project, though. The AOSP is still intact and maintained in accordance with the licensing.

The application signing backtrack is an issue, but more of a political problem than a technical one. America's lesson here has been written on the wall for years: regulate your tech businesses, or your tech businesses will regulate you.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by stalfosknight »

hashim-warren wrote: post #24
bengoodger wrote: post #10

Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…

I would like scratch made browser to focus on performance. Chromium browsers eat my RAM and drain my computer battery.

Try Safari. No browser is snappier or more power efficient.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

btown wrote: post #5

To be sure, a browser that retains a representation of every word you read on it, constantly synthesizing a profile on your preferences, using that profile to filter everything you see through a lens that consistently enforces and limits the worldview of a snapshot-of-you - all with a level of data retention that would be controversial for Google but that OpenAI's users will happily opt into, that Palantir and its go…

Man, I miss the old days, seeing new tech come out and not immediately wondering how the worst parts of our industry are going to turn it into the torment nexus.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by superjose »

AlienRobot wrote: post #37

>To the surprise of literally nobody, it’s Chromium with AI slapped on top We should start calling browsers "Chromiums." My favorite Chromium is Vivaldi, by the way. It doesn't have AI slapped on it, but it has native a RSS client, e-mail client, vertical tabs, notes, a way to separate tabs into "workspaces" and a way to save tabs into "sessions" that you can reopen later, and it native profiles like Chrome. There ar…

Love Vivaldi! It has improved significantly over the years! I use it in tandem with Firefox.

I love to have thumbnail tabs!

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by jazzyjackson »

ikmckenz wrote: post #45
microtonal wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another possible aspect of it is that probably more and more sites are blocking AI crawlers through e.g. Cloudflare's support for blocking AI crawler and AI agents. This will give them a backdoor to that content through a user's connection. I am not sure if this is happening, but as blocking becomes more prevalent, having a widely-used browser will help.

Why won't these sites simply block this browser?

Because this browser is just chromium and its user agent will be indistinguishable
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