The day EA games will run on Linux will be the day Windows dies IMHO. This will mean full support of all broken graphical APIs and stability of drivers from e.g. nvidia that currently looks like a rollercoaster ride - every other app works stable on different nvidia driver. As W10 user, W11 denialer I’m waiting for that day!
Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
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Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wifi never seems to work 'out the box', so be ready to connect to the internet using ethernet to download the latest drivers and thus get wifi to work.
Wifi works most of the time out of the box, for many years now. That was different two decades ago, but that's a long time. But if it does not work that is highly annoying of course.
For me, it was a ThinkPad X1 Gen 11 and Mint 21.2 (MATE) about a year ago.
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#53IMO the best way for Linux to win is to advocate it to your kids. People usually stick to whatever they learned and played with during childhood, and if we can make a whole generation Linux aware, not as a server but as a desktop, then the time of Linux desktop is foreseeable. Instead of poaching to the adults, poach it to the kids. Tell them stories of hackers, etc. We can also volunteer in schools for a few session…
Or if you want to make them tech capable, another possibility is to give them a cheap Mac (apparently Apple is going to release a MacBook with an A-series SoC soon). You can open a terminal and show how it works, they can explore the filesystem with Finder, but when they need to do school work, they also have access to good DTP applications (Swift Publisher is really affordable and nice for kids), Affinity Designer/P…
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wifi works most of the time out of the box, for many years now. That was different two decades ago, but that's a long time. But if it does not work that is highly annoying of course.
Ah I think what is happening is that a brand new laptop may not have had its drivers added to the latest download/image version of your chosen distro. Hence the need to connect and update to get those drivers. For me, it was a ThinkPad X1 Gen 11 and Mint 21.2 (MATE) about a year ago.
> Linux Mint 21.2 features a Linux kernel 5.15 and an Ubuntu Jammy package base.
That's from Oct. 2021, so it wasn't new a year ago.
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#55IMO the best way for Linux to win is to advocate it to your kids. People usually stick to whatever they learned and played with during childhood, and if we can make a whole generation Linux aware, not as a server but as a desktop, then the time of Linux desktop is foreseeable. Instead of poaching to the adults, poach it to the kids. Tell them stories of hackers, etc. We can also volunteer in schools for a few session…
Or if you want to make them tech capable, another possibility is to give them a cheap Mac (apparently Apple is going to release a MacBook with an A-series SoC soon). You can open a terminal and show how it works, they can explore the filesystem with Finder, but when they need to do school work, they also have access to good DTP applications (Swift Publisher is really affordable and nice for kids), Affinity Designer/P…
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#56Unfortunately the Linux desktop is in its worst state it has been since two decades with containerized apps/frameworks/browsers updating when they feel like it all the time and the related unsolvable permission and layering problems on top of the usual WLAN, touchpad, and power management issues unsolved for nearly 30 years as a growing number of second system effect frameworks bring new issues with ungooglable solut…
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#57Unfortunately the Linux desktop is in its worst state it has been since two decades with containerized apps/frameworks/browsers updating when they feel like it all the time and the related unsolvable permission and layering problems on top of the usual WLAN, touchpad, and power management issues unsolved for nearly 30 years as a growing number of second system effect frameworks bring new issues with ungooglable solut…
A year after Windows 7 reached EOL, we began running Debian with XFCE for internet facing boxes. They all run uninterrupted with zero issues, and are orders of magnitude more stable than Windows 11. The biggest bonus to me is, Linux/BSD sets up in minutes and you're done; literally done and ready for work/pleasure. Properly setting up Windows using group policy and other privacy controlling mechanisms takes five+ hou…
I went through this not too long ago. And the effort required feels like a very deliberate dark pattern move.
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#58IMO the best way for Linux to win is to advocate it to your kids. People usually stick to whatever they learned and played with during childhood, and if we can make a whole generation Linux aware, not as a server but as a desktop, then the time of Linux desktop is foreseeable. Instead of poaching to the adults, poach it to the kids. Tell them stories of hackers, etc. We can also volunteer in schools for a few session…
This is even more important now as younger generations are just given iPads and other locked down devices, to the point where they have to learn how to navigate a file system in their introductory university courses.
What happened to IT lessons at school? I had IT starting at the age of 13 onwards, and that was in the early 2000s. By the time you graduated from school, you were guaranteed to have at least basic IT skills.
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, no. WSL2 is kind of bad compared to a proper Linux environment, you'll encounter so many tiny cuts that eventually you'll yearn for a proper environment where stuff just works instead of having to fight against the built-in "interoperability" stuff Microsoft has added that just gets in the way and introduces new issues. Saying this as someone who've used both Linux and Windows as a main OS for decades, and would…
> WSL2 is kind of bad compared to a proper Linux environment, you'll encounter so many tiny cuts I used WSL2 for years and never had any issues with it.
A year ago or something, changing the size of the WSL disk via some Powershell command also corrupted the disk after it was done, I had to start from scratch which was a bit annoying.
Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"
#60Lots of "obsolete" Pc's are perfectly able to run W11, only missing the blessings from Redmond.