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KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by tmtvl »

ak_111 wrote: post #6

I am used to having "Emacs key-bindings" on both gnome and Mac (so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application, such as chrome). For some strange reason this seems to be very hard thing to set up on KDE or am I missing something?

On paper KDE's system is more elegant and practical than GNOME's. In practice the keyboard shortcut management via exporting and importing is rather unwieldy. Then again, if you want to go deep into setting up your shortcuts to something properly usable, it's a fair bit more convenient with KDE, where all your shortcuts are in a single place, than with GNOME, where you have to look in all the gconf categories and it's a right pain to find conflicts.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by tmtvl »

setopt wrote: post #12

I used Linux for a long time (since ~2002), but for the past years I've been daily-driving a MacBook. I'm now switching back, and will likely go with either Gnome or KDE. I've used XFCE, i3wm, etc. for years before – and briefly tried Sway too before I switched to Mac – but from what I've read it sounds like the "big" DEs make life easier post-Wayland. Anyone want to share why you currently choose KDE over Gnome?

I don't want to install an extension which will break next time there's a new GNOME release just to be able to set my clock to '%A %F %R' format.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by Rooster61 »

outadoc wrote: post #29
frameset wrote: post #25

I'm absolutely loving KDE since I returned to desktop Linux after a long absence. What really shocks me is how few of the big distros make KDE a default or "first class" DE choice. If I was a novice user coming from Windows, I'd much prefer KDE, which if you stick to the GUI is very navigable and similar in some ways.

I can easily see a novice user coming from Windows accidentally getting into the edit mode of Plasma and being completely confused. I like KDE as an advanced user but I wouldn't install it on my grandma's laptop. I agree that it would be great to have it as a first-class citizen in more distros, but I guess the maintenance burden is not negligible. I'm glad Fedora promoted it though.

I've had the opposite experience. I installed KDE on a new desktop I built for my mom, and outside of a handful of growing pains (mainly things Windoze had vendor locked), she's been happy as a lark with it. She hasn't gone very far off the beaten path and really doesn't have too much of a need to.

And she is in fact a grandma.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by kps »

ak_111 wrote: post #6

I am used to having "Emacs key-bindings" on both gnome and Mac (so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application, such as chrome). For some strange reason this seems to be very hard thing to set up on KDE or am I missing something?

> so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application

And Control-W will always erase word no matter the application?

This is actually a major reason I use KDE: I can, with some effort, change keyboard shortcuts to avoid conflicting with terminal Control keys. It doesn't solve the textbox problem, though.

(I don't use Emacs bindings, but Control-W erase word came in the ‘new’ TTY driver in BSD2 in 1983 — predating Windows 1.0, incidentally — likely copying TOPS-20.)

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by noisy_boy »

Sammi wrote: post #43
outadoc wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can easily see a novice user coming from Windows accidentally getting into the edit mode of Plasma and being completely confused. I like KDE as an advanced user but I wouldn't install it on my grandma's laptop. I agree that it would be great to have it as a first-class citizen in more distros, but I guess the maintenance burden is not negligible. I'm glad Fedora promoted it though.

The average Linux user is not your grandma and lets not overstate how easy it is to mess up your KDE config. Most of the config ui in KDE is delightful compared to other desktop environments, and most non-technical users would shy away from even trying to fiddle with technical stuff. And those that do fiddle and mess up are likely to have a technical person at hand to help them, because someone had to install Linux f…

Playing devil's advocate, KDE settings are clear but there might be a possibility for a "Advanced Mode" button (with a first-time click warning) on the top-right of the "Quick Settings" screen that opens up when we launch the Settings. That can hide the "risky" stuff (e.g. "Window Management" etc). There might be value in adding a "Lock Panels" options to handle accidental modifications/removal etc.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by sgc »

ak_111 wrote: post #6

I am used to having "Emacs key-bindings" on both gnome and Mac (so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application, such as chrome). For some strange reason this seems to be very hard thing to set up on KDE or am I missing something?

This seemed like something relatively easy for chatgpt to handle. The response is a bit complicated compared to what it sounds like you are looking for (it's not from the kde settings gui), but still a two minute "fix".

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by noisy_boy »

pjmlp wrote: post #30

Happy birthday KDE, outside XFCE, KDE is the desktop I would go back to if I ever reconsider building a Linux desktop again. Has all the developer goodies with KDevelop, written with tooling that empowers UI/UX development workflows, has a proper component system with much better tooling than COM, quite configurable without extensions all over the place. Signed, a disillusioned former Gtkmm user, with how GNOME turne…

For a sec I read it as a former Gkrellm user

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by janwl »

>Case in point: Microsoft is stopping free support for Windows 10 on hundreds of millions of computers this very week. Many of these old yet perfectly usable devices will not be able to upgrade because of spurious hardware requirements. Microsoft’s solution? “Throw away your computer and pollute the planet because we want to make even more money.”

Windows 10 was released in 2015. Does KDE still support whatever version of KDE was released in 2015?

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by cgh »

janwl wrote: post #58

>Case in point: Microsoft is stopping free support for Windows 10 on hundreds of millions of computers this very week. Many of these old yet perfectly usable devices will not be able to upgrade because of spurious hardware requirements. Microsoft’s solution? “Throw away your computer and pollute the planet because we want to make even more money.” Windows 10 was released in 2015. Does KDE still support whatever versi…

The point is that KDE from 2015 will still run on today’s hardware.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by emilsedgh »

janwl wrote: post #58

>Case in point: Microsoft is stopping free support for Windows 10 on hundreds of millions of computers this very week. Many of these old yet perfectly usable devices will not be able to upgrade because of spurious hardware requirements. Microsoft’s solution? “Throw away your computer and pollute the planet because we want to make even more money.” Windows 10 was released in 2015. Does KDE still support whatever versi…

No but upgrading KDE is free. It also doesn't force new hardware requirements.
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