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ICE actively targets and arrests people who are legally staying in the US as well, detaining them for weeks without due process.

What exactly is your evidence for this claim?

What do you consider to be their basis for such targeting, and what is your evidence for that claim?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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By talking to those apathetic and talking to those that think this isn't a problem. There is a war for your mind.

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i'm fine with upholding laws, but secret police are bullshit. we have a serious problem with police accountability in the USA, they shouldn't be allowed to obscure their badge number and face, as that only encourages bad behavior.

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By talking to those apathetic and talking to those that think this isn't a problem. There is a war for your mind.

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The scary part is how this is being done, not that immigration laws are being “followed” (they aren’t).

Masked men roaming the streets arresting even US citizens without a warrant.

Going into court rooms and houses of worship to do it.

Using violence on unarmed peaceful protesters, regardless of the protest legality.

Combine it with the Republican inability to follow the law and the current rhetoric about “antifa” and how democrats are terrorists.

That’s why this isn’t good and people are scared. It could turn into civil war at this point, with very little spark.

Thankfully you’re from Canada and your stake in the matter is fairly nil.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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I love that this was US propaganda at one point. The US always has failings, but this message is something we can be proud of.

Is it still true that Americans find it hard to see how this is very clearly propaganda?

Yes, it's anti-Nazi but it's still has very obvious problems.

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Why not have a conversation instead of downvoting. What did I say is wrong? Your second paragraph is implying that the half of Americans who voted for Trump are "bad Americans". That seems to be sowing the division that your first paragraph warns against (even if it is a reason to dislike Trump). I don't think either democrats or republicans can claim the moral high ground about sowing division.

It seems to me as though you're reading a lot in to that second paragraph. Are you disputing the basic facts outlined, about "masked agents roaming the streets kidnapping people in broad daylight"? Because that is, in fact, a thing that is happening in cities all over the country right now, and simply pointing out that it is happening is not a partisan act.

The partisan act is the description of what is going on.

Can you show that the arrests are unlawful? Or else what exactly is your basis for the use of the term "kidnapping"?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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This is important for everyone here to watch. A divided house does not stand, and if you haven't noticed, it's getting more divided every day. Don't be a sucker, don't let them divide us. For perspective, we now have masked agents roaming the streets kidnapping people in broad daylight. In the United States. Think about how fast this came. EDIT: Why not have a conversation instead of downvoting. What did I say is wro…

Why not have a conversation instead of downvoting. What did I say is wrong? Your second paragraph is implying that the half of Americans who voted for Trump are "bad Americans". That seems to be sowing the division that your first paragraph warns against (even if it is a reason to dislike Trump). I don't think either democrats or republicans can claim the moral high ground about sowing division.

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Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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I love that this was US propaganda at one point. The US always has failings, but this message is something we can be proud of.

Is it still true that Americans find it hard to see how this is very clearly propaganda? Yes, it's anti-Nazi but it's still has very obvious problems.

What problems?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Is it still true that Americans find it hard to see how this is very clearly propaganda? Yes, it's anti-Nazi but it's still has very obvious problems.

What problems?

Well it's massively overtly nationalist for one. There's a hilarious sequence at the beginning that's just shots of American industry and agriculture.

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The scary part is how this is being done, not that immigration laws are being “followed” (they aren’t). Masked men roaming the streets arresting even US citizens without a warrant. Going into court rooms and houses of worship to do it. Using violence on unarmed peaceful protesters, regardless of the protest legality. Combine it with the Republican inability to follow the law and the current rhetoric about “antifa” an…

Can you show that they have arrested US citizens without reasonable suspicion? Can you otherwise show that law is not being followed? From what I can tell, they are legally allowed to wear masks for this. ICE's webpage also is adamant that they legally do not always require a warrant (https://www.ice.gov/immigration-enforcement-frequently-asked...), and Snopes agrees (https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/06/21/ice-arrest-people-war...).

Entering private property without a warrant does seem like it would be unlawful, yes. Fourth Amendment, yes? Do you know of court cases scheduled to make this argument?

Regarding protests and the response, that very much contradicts the video evidence I've seen.

There is no rhetoric, as far as I can tell, about "how democrats are terrorists", except in the sense that there equally is rhetoric about "how republicans are fascists". There is rhetoric about antifa, no quotes, because (among other things) of the demonstrable existence of protesters using black bloc tactics, explicitly describing themselves with that label, and explicitly stating a goal of countering supposed "fascism".

Do you otherwise disagree about the general principles of setting and enforcing rules for immigration?

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