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Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

> If it might be so easy to improve your health (for some of us), why isn't this discussed or studied more broadly?

I think you just need to reach for a literature that's a few hundred years older maybe.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

I haven't looked it up but often odd numbers like that are often due to the paper looking at people who were hospitalised for covid which is a small percentage of those who get it.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Can they disambiguate between spike protein microclots produced by natural infection vs. those generated by the vaccines.

I am curious about the working hypothesis leading to this question.

I've looked up quite a lot of research about vaccines doing damage and the usual result is yes they do but it's about 100x less bad than covid itself.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

That's interesting - I've had low energy and somewhat raised blood pressure since covid. Maybe I'll give it a go.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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post #6

This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

I assume we are built to lose some blood. I imagine throughout most of our species development, injuries were somewhat common on a regular basis. Just looking at the scars on my own body, from a quite active childhood and young adult period outdoors, I am extrapolating. n = 1

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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This is (probably) not a Long Covid story but I found that bloodletting (for which I even received money!) gave me back the energy that I was missing for the last few years (e.g. it was impossible to build stamina). I also read about a study about the positive effects of bloodletting[1] that somehow is not all the rage in mainstream news, which I find perplexing. If it might be so easy to improve your health (for som…

I live in an area with PFAS contaminated ground water (which I now aggressively filter.) To me giving blood just kind of makes sense, if there is a class of things that can enter your blood and never leave, and does not replicate on its own, why not perform a regular "oil change" and hopefully help some people at the same time. Some study has been done: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8994130/ The study spec…

“I’ll do something which might be beneficial or harmful to me (I don’t know) and if given evidence of harm (likely never) I’ll stop doing it.” Ok…have fun I guess.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

Yeah the paper is just lying. “Long Covid” is just a typical response to a severe flu. Many people are just ignorant of the fact that flus can weaken the immune system past the initial infection. It’s well meaning attempt to understand common flu symptoms but they are just relating to COVID to get more clicks and funding.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

After covid I suffered from intermittent brain fog for years and also felt like my heart was maybe struggling more than usual when I was training at the gym. Never enough to warrant going to a doctor unless I was being super paranoid (and spend a long time convincing them I wasn't paranoid) but just enough to always wonder if there was something more to the story.

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Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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post #45

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

After covid I suffered from intermittent brain fog for years and also felt like my heart was maybe struggling more than usual when I was training at the gym. Never enough to warrant going to a doctor unless I was being super paranoid (and spend a long time convincing them I wasn't paranoid) but just enough to always wonder if there was something more to the story.

Similar situation, but I had (and still have) issues with the heart, and not sure whether they were from undiagnosed covid infection (never had typical Covid symptoms, and all tests for it came negative), or some rare complications from the vaccine.

I started having heart flutters a day or two after my shot and had severe fever (I was 25 at the time), but the former never went a way. I brushed it off as a temporary symptom and typical after shot reaction (well, fever was at least). Heart flutters never went away and I didn't go to the doctor for at least a few months, it became so frequent that I could not sleep, exercise or even climb the stairs anymore without heart feeling like it's about to explode out of my chest. Not the high heart rate, but abrupt, irregular vibrations/twitching and sometimes feeling like you get punched in the chest, just from the inside around the heart area. Anyway, it happens frequently and in any situation, even at rest.

Got diagnosed with third degree AV block. The flutters were due to the significant damage to the heart muscle, which caused the failure of the conduction system - signals from the upper chambers did not always reach the lower chambers.

I am not angry at anyone or anything, just disappointed. It would feel a lot easier if it was some obvious bad decision of mine, like drinking, doing drugs, smoking, or being overweight, but I did not nor were any of these things. I still keep categorizing life as "before" and "after".

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

A lot of symptoms of long covid mirror the symptoms of unhealthy living, which may make it so people either dismiss their own symptoms and don't seek diagnosis, or their complaints are dismissed by others for needing to simply improve externalities.

Couldn’t it be the other way round, that changes in health caused by other external factors erroneously get blamed on COVID?

For instance, a disproportionate amount of long COVID cases are reported by women between the ages of 40 and 60, the exact age range when most women experience menopause [0]. Menopause can cause brain fog, fatigue, and other symptoms that mirror those of long COVID. Since pretty much everyone has had COVID, it’s a basic statistical certainty that many women caught COVID exactly when their menopausal symptoms started (whose onset can be extremely sudden), and falsely causally associate the two. The exact same conflation likely happens in children, who also go through several profound developmental shifts.

[0] https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/28/long-covid-may-actua...

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