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EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tmtvl »

ReptileMan wrote: post #6
r9295 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsure what either of those have to do with this law

Hamburger is somewhat traditional food. So it makes sense to be regulated as such - to not be able to name any crap hamburger, but only specific crap hamburger. One that is beef patty inside a bun. Having a animal derived patty by grinding is essential part of some item being called hamburger.

Feel free to protect 'Hamburg-style Steak', but protecting 'burger' is stupid. Also very odd coincidence that the rise of vegetarian/vegan alternatives prompts the reaction, when nobody batted an eye at 'fish burger' or 'chicken burger'. I suppose that anything which promotes not murdering innocent animals is bad.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by pjmlp »

tyleo wrote: post #11

Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.

My point exactly, eating fake meat it only fooling oneself.

So many delicious dishes from world regions where being a vegetarian is the norm.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tcfhgj »

cheschire wrote: post #49
tcfhgj wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is exaggerated - at least in my region. Example: https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/imag... Vegan cheese packaging: https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-v... https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/file... Plus, usually dedicated/labelled sections and optical separation in the supermarket: https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/0... h…

In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. Granted, it is rather obvious in Germany as you said because those foods are most typically purchased from a section dedicated to them and not mixed with others. Bu…

> In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin.

but obviously not chicken augmented with soy

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN »

GoToRO wrote: post #10
bradley13 wrote: post #5

Some food labelling is misleading. One example I have seen ist (small) "veggie" (big) "CRISPY CHICKEN". But burger? Sure, burgers are often beef, but there have always been other kinds. "Chicken burger", "crab burger", so why not "veggie burger". The EU likes making regulations, to the point that they are killing their own industry

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

Well, guess you learned a valuable lesson: always read packaging because corporations will go to any length to deceive you.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by pndy »

intended wrote: post #35

As an inveterate “get off of my lawn” crabby person, I can get behind this. I tilt against the windmills of the “vegetarian omelette”.

I saw "vegetarian rice" made out of Basmati rice last month - a clear marketing ploy to grab particular customers but my brain got mental fart and I wondered for a few seconds amused "as opposed to what - meat based rice?"

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tmtvl »

> The EU has already defined dairy items milk, butter, cream, yoghurt and cheese as "products secreted by mammary glands", meaning that what might otherwise be called oat milk is instead generally referred to as oat drink.

Meanwhile, back in 1755:

> MILK. n.s. [meelc, Saxon; melck, Dutch.]

> 2. Emulsion made by contusion of seeds.

> Pistachoes, so they be good and not musty, joined with almonds in almond milk, or made into a milk of themselves, like unto almond milk, are an excellent nourisher.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by cheschire »

tcfhgj wrote: post #53
cheschire wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. Granted, it is rather obvious in Germany as you said because those foods are most typically purchased from a section dedicated to them and not mixed with others. Bu…

> In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. but obviously not chicken augmented with soy

Only obvious based on context and prior knowledge.

But there are a lot of folks without that knowledge.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

odyssey7 wrote: post #12

This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.

There is a long history of legal use of words about what foods are. Like what you are allowed to call 'butter' or 'beer'. There's also the regional names like parmesan and champagne. This looks like its following that established norm.
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