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Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by mihaaly »

Maro wrote: post #34

We're on fire! 2025 - László Krasznahorkai - Literature - for his compelling and visionary oeuvre that, in the midst of apocalyptic terror, reaffirms the power of art. 2023 - Katalin Karikó - Physiology or Medicine - for their discoveries concerning nucleoside base modifications that enabled the development of effective mRNA vaccines against COVID-19. 2023 - Ferenc Krausz - Physics - for experimental methods that gen…

It is difficult to say 'we' here for me, when the common ground with these remarkable people are only the country of origin and most of the time the language spoken. Also when it is based on achievements that are mostly theirs, which I have nothing to do with.

I am glad that these people could achive so much coming from a place like Hungary, that is providing inadequate possibilities for these kinds of achivements so they reach it in other countries too many times. Or sometimes even put obstacles in their ways - which is actually good/ok in the end as they seek out the places allowing their success.

But I am glad for any Nobel price winners, regardless of their origins. They give us so much.

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by slibhb »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #46

He's my favorite working author! (Well, maybe that's Pynchon) I recommend not only his early works like Satantango but also his recent ones like Seiobo There Below (lucky to have a signed copy of this one). The short ones are interesting too. Animalinside (with Max Neumann), The Last Wolf. Interested in checking Chasing Homer which has musical accompaniment: "Publishers Weekly described the book as a cross between a…

Seiobo There Below was really hard to get through. Earlier stuff is much less so.

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by mrsvanwinkle »

kkukshtel wrote: post #48
haunter wrote: post #3

You can't mention Krasznahorkai without Béla Tarr. Tarr's main filmography is basically Krasznahorkai's main bibliography: Damnation (1988), Sátántangó (1994), Werckmeister Harmonies (2000), The Man from London (2007), The Turin Horse (2011). I honestly say the films from Tarr are arguably the best book-to-film adaptations ever, especially Sátántangó, he is the master of literary filmmaking where the spirit of text c…

They truly feel like a match made in heaven. Krasznahorkai's own writing is lovely and lyrical, and Tarr's interpretation of it projects the same ideas onto the films but also in a way that makes it stand distinct as a medium. I could watch this scene from Werckmeister Harmonies every day for the rest of my life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5X2t_s9g8 And The Turin Horse as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=…

Thank you so much to you and original commenter for the passionate rec.

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by czhu12 »

bobcostas55 wrote: post #40
madcaptenor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hungary is a relatively small country, so that's quite impressive!

"The Atomic Bomb Considered As Hungarian High School Science Fair Project" https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/26/the-atomic-bomb-consid...

This was one of the most fascinating things I've read all year. Thank you for posting

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by wahnfrieden »

mrsvanwinkle wrote: post #55
kkukshtel wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They truly feel like a match made in heaven. Krasznahorkai's own writing is lovely and lyrical, and Tarr's interpretation of it projects the same ideas onto the films but also in a way that makes it stand distinct as a medium. I could watch this scene from Werckmeister Harmonies every day for the rest of my life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5X2t_s9g8 And The Turin Horse as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=…

Thank you so much to you and original commenter for the passionate rec.

Try to see Tarr's movies on film. Except for the last couple that got Bluray releases there are only horrible quality DVDs available. But they come around on 35mm in cities like NY somewhat routinely.

When Turin Horse came out I saw it at the NYFF (with an hour long talk in a small room with the director) and then another 3 times in theaters afterward. I've been lucky to catch Satantango and Werckmeister on film.

Tarr also mentored a young Chinese director, Hu Bo. His two works are very good: An Elephant Sitting Still and Man in the Well. Tarr came out to TIFF to introduce and eulogize the latter with an impassioned speech.

edit: Forgot that Criterion finally released a new edition of Werckmeister recently.

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by greenie_beans »

mamonster wrote: post #36
diego_moita wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain? I liked both of Annie Ernaux's books about her parents.

Sure. 1)The writing is very bad (which is ironic because she got mad at Houellebecq for being a racist and said that he is translated a lot because he writes like shit so easy to translate). You take an average page of Ernaux (in French) and it's just not very... sophisticated at all, but then all the critics that like her say that this language "unmasks" the reality and is the perfect medium for "autofiction". 2)Her…

re #2, this is part of culture whether you agree with it or not. just because you don't like her politics doesn't mean she's not influential. sounds like your beef is with what was trending in the marketplace of ideas at that time and you would never be happy if any left wing writer was chosen.

don't worry, a reactionary will get their time soon enough again. last night, actually, my thought was: i bet it's gonna be a conservative (given the current political climate and how ironically "conservatism" is trendy as "avant-garde" despite the oxymoron in how conservative ideas are some of the most basic and mainstream ideas in the world)

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by Maro »

mihaaly wrote: post #51
Maro wrote: post #34

We're on fire! 2025 - László Krasznahorkai - Literature - for his compelling and visionary oeuvre that, in the midst of apocalyptic terror, reaffirms the power of art. 2023 - Katalin Karikó - Physiology or Medicine - for their discoveries concerning nucleoside base modifications that enabled the development of effective mRNA vaccines against COVID-19. 2023 - Ferenc Krausz - Physics - for experimental methods that gen…

It is difficult to say 'we' here for me, when the common ground with these remarkable people are only the country of origin and most of the time the language spoken. Also when it is based on achievements that are mostly theirs, which I have nothing to do with. I am glad that these people could achive so much coming from a place like Hungary, that is providing inadequate possibilities for these kinds of achivements so…

Ferenc Krausz has almost the same degrees as me: ELTE Physics, BME EEng/Comp.Sci.

Katalin Karikó went to the same University as my sister (Szeged).

But yes, we have to leave the country if we want good opportunities.. unless we go into politics! Fidesz is easily the most successful startup in Hungary after 1989, possibly in Europe; Fidesz' CEO is one of the richest men in Europe.. unfortunately at our expense.

Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2025: László Krasznahorkai

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Post by spicymaki »

mihaaly wrote: post #51
Maro wrote: post #34

We're on fire! 2025 - László Krasznahorkai - Literature - for his compelling and visionary oeuvre that, in the midst of apocalyptic terror, reaffirms the power of art. 2023 - Katalin Karikó - Physiology or Medicine - for their discoveries concerning nucleoside base modifications that enabled the development of effective mRNA vaccines against COVID-19. 2023 - Ferenc Krausz - Physics - for experimental methods that gen…

It is difficult to say 'we' here for me, when the common ground with these remarkable people are only the country of origin and most of the time the language spoken. Also when it is based on achievements that are mostly theirs, which I have nothing to do with. I am glad that these people could achive so much coming from a place like Hungary, that is providing inadequate possibilities for these kinds of achivements so…

Agreed, I do understand the sentiment of when someone of your tribe does something great you feel great sentiment, but it can lead to zero sum thinking which is counterproductive. I am pleased that every year we celebrate the achievements of humanity.
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