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The answer is no. Framework is not putting money into far right causes. They are paying for open source software. The politics of some of the contributors is questionable. But it's not illegal to have bad opinions and exercise free speech. And it's certainly not Frameworks job to morally vet every person they interact with. I do not need to know about the political opinions of the people who grow my food, or change m…
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I didn't (and don't) believe that to be an exaggeration -- My confidence in that number may not be released sales reports, but I see a very clear pattern of people reporting buying Frameworks for the move to Omarchy (the server has also grown 5-10x in the last two months), and have seen the Framework team's reciprocal enthusiasm. What's your estimate, if you think mine is exaggerated? 10? A material difference?
I don't need to estimate anything it's yours to provide the numbers because you made the statement. The growth numbers for their discord are true but mostly because the official release was made in the timeframe you provided. Ofc framework will use it in some tweets for marketing because it's trending that doesn't mean that sales are driven by it. They made tweets about other distros as well and nobody would use it t…
I’m not trying to sling wild hyperbole out there, in fact I thought it was relatively self-evident from pure observation which is why I made it so casually.
In fact, I’d contend you are arguing the counterpoint because you don’t like what it would imply, and have some resentment towards Omarchy or something else about what I’ve said.
I’m not going to insult your intelligence by linking basic psych to support why that’s likely.
The answer is no. Framework is not putting money into far right causes. They are paying for open source software. The politics of some of the contributors is questionable. But it's not illegal to have bad opinions and exercise free speech. And it's certainly not Frameworks job to morally vet every person they interact with. I do not need to know about the political opinions of the people who grow my food, or change m…
This is obviously true on the Right, but I've learned it's also true on the Left. People scream "1 nazi in your bar means you're a nazi" and yet Drew Devault remains an influential progressive, despite a history of lolicon/CP.
Oh man... Technology has always been a refuge from politics for me. I know this is a childish view of the world, but still... Today the nerdiest of things are still filled with politics. Rust, nix, open source hardware... there is nowhere to "hide".
Everything is political. The way you dress, where you work, who are your friends, what you buy. Especially what you buy, maybe most of all in this society.
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I don't need to estimate anything it's yours to provide the numbers because you made the statement. The growth numbers for their discord are true but mostly because the official release was made in the timeframe you provided. Ofc framework will use it in some tweets for marketing because it's trending that doesn't mean that sales are driven by it. They made tweets about other distros as well and nobody would use it t…
If you’re simply trying to say “don’t make claims you don’t have hard data on”, say that - but you’re not making any better of an effective argument against the belief itself. I’m not trying to sling wild hyperbole out there, in fact I thought it was relatively self-evident from pure observation which is why I made it so casually. In fact, I’d contend you are arguing the counterpoint because you don’t like what it wo…
And trying to make this about my supposed "resentment" is a classic deflection. It's way easier to guess at my motives than to actually defend your own argument. You literally described your own confirmation bias ("I see a very clear pattern"). I'm not the one arguing based on feelings here.
Believe what you want. Speaking of feelings the only feeling I have about omarchy is that it's a bit performative with the over ricing but that's mainly about visual taste and personally I am for less animations in my wm/de but hey whatever floats your boat.
We're done here unless you have something more than just your feelings to bring to the table. I checked the discord just for fun and found about 40 framework related posts with sort of an intention to buy. What a humongous amount of sales for a company like framework...
This is not it though - “Big Tent” means nothing when you’re supporting people who directly call for “Britain to be white again” and use slurs against minorities. It creates a gross space where people (like someone earlier in that thread) feel empowered to outright call for my existence to be invalidated.
This literally happened a few days ago on RetroAcheivements & they handled it well. I really hope framework come out with a response to all this.
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If you’re simply trying to say “don’t make claims you don’t have hard data on”, say that - but you’re not making any better of an effective argument against the belief itself. I’m not trying to sling wild hyperbole out there, in fact I thought it was relatively self-evident from pure observation which is why I made it so casually. In fact, I’d contend you are arguing the counterpoint because you don’t like what it wo…
You have the burden of proof completely backward. It's not my job to argue against your "belief." You made the claim, so you're the one who has to provide something to back it up. And trying to make this about my supposed "resentment" is a classic deflection. It's way easier to guess at my motives than to actually defend your own argument. You literally described your own confirmation bias ("I see a very clear patter…