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Why is 404 media banned?
I asked ChatGPT and it linked me to a post dang responded to. It’s related to their paywall. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42308348
Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
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Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#52Ok so what do we do? I'm serious. I'm sick of this corruption.
A good question. One I don't have any clean answers to. A lot of folks will have a knee-jerk 'switch to linux' response, but that's not exactly that simple - is it?
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#53Why don't citizens have the right to track federal agencies? Don't they serve us? Apple is capitulating to autocratic rule.
I'm gonna steelman an argument I don't hold: What about CIA? Revealing the identity of a CIA operative is a crime. I'm just responding to the part "Don't they serve us?" > Intentionally disclosing the identity of a U.S. intelligence agent, including a CIA officer, is a federal crime under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA), which can result in up to 10 years in prison and fines. This law applies to ind…
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
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I mean sure, but ICE is not an intelligence agency or holds classified information.
They're some kind of law enforcement agency that is on a mission to capture people breaking laws. If your local sheriff is on their way to serve a warrant of some kind, and you call the person and warn them to leave or alert them to destroy evidence, is that going to go well? I don't think it should.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#55Why don't citizens have the right to track federal agencies? Don't they serve us? Apple is capitulating to autocratic rule.
Source: Tim Apple sucking up to Trump like he's the antidote. This is even more ironic considering Tim's sexual orientation and Mango Jabba's take on "the gays".
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#56Ok so what do we do? I'm serious. I'm sick of this corruption.
Can host it on a website. Why bother with an app?
"You’ll also need to configure some things (primarily service workers and integration with Apple's Push API) in the backend code of your Progressive Web App to handle push notifications (and permissions received from users)."
Does Apple allow integration with the Push API for everyone or same limitations that got this removed from stores?
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#57Very broadly speaking, my position that I feel strongly on is: Apple should enjoy a right to distribute or restrict whatever apps they want through their app store. They might have a reasonable right to restrict what apps can be installed on their operating system and the means through which those apps are installed; I could be convinced either way depending on the day and I would not lose sleep if precedence is established in either direction. But they absolutely should not have any rights when it comes to restricting what operating systems I can run on their devices. I outline that only to state the context and framework within which the next paragraph is typed.
If Apple doesn't want to carry and distribute the anti-ICE app, I think that's their right. Apple's problem right now is that this unilaterally now means that the native application can no longer be executed on iOS, and that is a problem, but let's pretend like it isn't and that this app is now only available through the Epic Games App Store (or wherever). Why is this situation better for the anti-ICE app than just being a web app? This should be a web app, right? It shouldn't really rely on any native capabilities.
Phrase this another way, flip this on its head: the anti-ICE app wants in the App Store because of the marketing and ease of distribution it enables, which I feel are not natural rights developers should have when making applications. Its similar to freedom of speech; you have a right to speak, but you don't have a right to be heard. You should have a right for your app to be available (not all apps can be web apps; but this can). You should not have a right to ultra-streamlined distribution through Apple's servers.
I understand why this is a flashpoint, and I think its important that we push Apple on this issue because there should be more options when it comes to running code on mobile devices. However, functionally speaking: Y'all should just make this a web site.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#58Ok so what do we do? I'm serious. I'm sick of this corruption.
Trumps deportation numbers are not out of trend with prior presidents. Its on par with Obama.
Make immigration easier for law abiding productive members of society. Dont reward those who cut in line.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#59There's a national security argument for the EU banning non-European app stores.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#60Why don't citizens have the right to track federal agencies? Don't they serve us? Apple is capitulating to autocratic rule.
However a private entity, including Apple, is free to censor whatever they want on their platforms.
For example, I have the right to voraciously criticize or praise the current Administration or the prior Administration without government interference. However if you own a grocery store you are generally free to ban anyone wearing, or not wearing, a garment criticizing or praising either Administration (or any specific combination of praising or criticizing or referring to the current Administration or the prior Administration). Political views, unlike race or religion for example, are not a protected class under federal law even in a public accommodation such as a grocery store.