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Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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Re: Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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They also copied the look of Braun's classic calculator and tape deck designs for their calculator and podcasts apps. Is this particular instance copying? Yes. Will it affect the popularity of said designs in a positive manner? Probably. Will they sell more of their $400 clock (see: http://www.momastore.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDi... ) as a result? I'd guess at yes. So, in any case, they sell more clocks,…

My new goal: come up with someone clever enough that Apple rips it off and I can ride their coattails. That's the best I can ever do, right?

Re: Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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There is a difference here (although I admit I'm experiencing some lovely schadenfreude glow over here). Samsung built camouflaged products that were designed to confuse buyers into thinking they were buying an iPad. Here, Apple has ripped off an iconic design, but there's little doubt that what they are selling is still an iPhone and not a Swiss watch.

Still, trade dress (and accusations of douchebaggery) still apply -- and, in a broader sense, Apple are still hypocrits for decrying "copying" while still doing it themselves. The exact nature of the copying is simply different.

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They also copied the look of Braun's classic calculator and tape deck designs for their calculator and podcasts apps. Is this particular instance copying? Yes. Will it affect the popularity of said designs in a positive manner? Probably. Will they sell more of their $400 clock (see: http://www.momastore.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDi... ) as a result? I'd guess at yes. So, in any case, they sell more clocks,…

So when Apple infringes on someone else's trademarked products, the affected party should be grateful ? Because it might be "free" advertising? Are you out of your mind? What's with the sycophantic comments all over this story excusing Apple's terrible behavior?

There is a difference between "homage" and "rip-off"

Look at all of the designs that Dieter Rams did, that Apple used in their own products:

http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secr...

And look what Dieter things about this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8555503/Dieter-R...

Can you not see the difference between what Apple is doing and what Samsung is doing?

Re: Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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There is a difference here (although I admit I'm experiencing some lovely schadenfreude glow over here). Samsung built camouflaged products that were designed to confuse buyers into thinking they were buying an iPad. Here, Apple has ripped off an iconic design, but there's little doubt that what they are selling is still an iPhone and not a Swiss watch. Still, trade dress (and accusations of douchebaggery) still appl…

Given that all of Samsung's phones have the word "Samsung" stamped on them in fairly large letters, I don't think they were doing anything to intentionally confuse buyers.

Copying yes, but with the intention of confusing buyers, I don't think so.

Re: Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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There is a difference here (although I admit I'm experiencing some lovely schadenfreude glow over here). Samsung built camouflaged products that were designed to confuse buyers into thinking they were buying an iPad. Here, Apple has ripped off an iconic design, but there's little doubt that what they are selling is still an iPhone and not a Swiss watch. Still, trade dress (and accusations of douchebaggery) still appl…

you make an accusation that I have seen no evidence of in the press. Are you possessed of information demonstrating intent on Samsung's part to confuse buyers?

Re: Apple accused of ripping off famous Swiss clock design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Government entities can and often do own intellectual property - patents, trademarks, copyrights - and regularly defend them. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_New_York for one famous example.

While this is true, there are bounds of I (heart) something_somethings and AFAIK, NYC does not go after them for infringement (I feel as though Apple's rendition is sufficiently different that it's not the same as the orig (hand lengths, motion, etc). Moreover, in the NYC case, I (heart) NY is trademarked and part of an advert campaign, so I can understand their defence of their TM. Did The Swiss RR get a design pate…

Yes, actually NYC (well, NY State Dept. of Economic Development) constantly goes after people for infringement of the "I heart NY" logo. They definitely do follow through.

It's not about money being made, it's a legal necessity that a trademark owner needs to actively defend the mark in order to keep it.

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