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Sora Update #1

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Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by nmfisher »

crimsoneer wrote: post #30

So that sounds like they "released" this fully aware it would generate loads of hype, but never ever be legally feasible to release at scale, so we can expect some heavily cut down version to eventually become publicly released?

Feels very much like a knee-jerk response to Facebook releasing their "Vibes" app the week before. It's basically the same thing, OpenAI are probably willing to light a pile of money on fire to take the wind out of their sails.

I also don't think the "Sam Altman" videos were authentic/organic at all, smells much more like a coordinated astroturfing campaign.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by pants2 »

solid_fuel wrote: post #40
minimaxir wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to explicitly opt into sharing your likeness with permission controls. > person should be able to block a video someone shares without their consent That is already implemented.

> You have to explicitly opt into sharing your likeness with permission controls. Ok... how is that supposed to work? I don't have an OpenAI account, there are no permission controls for me. Someone else could easily upload a picture of me, no?

No, you have to register yourself with a video where you're required to say a unique code.

So unless you've posted a video of yourself online saying every number from 1 to 99 they won't be able to copy your likeness

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Post by brandon272 »

Obviously, OpenAI could have had copyright restrictions in place from the get-go with this, but instead made an intentional decision to allow people to generate everything ranging from Spongebob videos to Michael Jackson videos to South Park videos.

Today, Sora users on reddit are pretty much beside themselves because of newly enabled content restrictions. They are (apparently) no longer able to generate these types of videos and see no use for the service without that ability!

To me it raises two questions:

1) Was the initial "free for all" a marketing ploy?

2) Is it the case that people find these video generators a lot less interesting when they have to come up with original ideas for the videos and cannot use copyright characters, etc?

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by timschmidt »

ineedasername wrote: post #50
timschmidt wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cue an open weights model from Qwen or DeepSeek with none of these limitations.

These attempted limitations tend to be very brittle when the material isn’t excised from the training data, even more so when it’s visual rather than just text. It becomes very much like that board game Taboo where the goal is to get people to guess a word without saying a few other highly related words or synonyms. For example, I had no problem getting the desired results when I promoted Sora for “A street level vie…

Absolutely. Though the smarter these things get, and the more layers of additional LLMs on top playing copyright police that there are, I do expect it to get more challenging.

My comment was intended more to point out that copyright cartels are a competitive liability for AI corps based in "the west". Groups who can train models on all available culture without limitation will produce more capable models with less friction for generating content that people want.

People have strong opinions about whether or not this is morally defensible. I'm not commenting on that either way. Just pointing out the reality of it.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by pants2 »

stogot wrote: post #35
tkamado wrote: post #24

The OpenAI dream: replace your job with AI, replace your free time with AI slop?

And replace rightsholders with “maybe we will try to revenue share… maybe”

They also said at one point they'll share their profits with the world as UBI

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Post by ronsor »

brandon272 wrote: post #53

Obviously, OpenAI could have had copyright restrictions in place from the get-go with this, but instead made an intentional decision to allow people to generate everything ranging from Spongebob videos to Michael Jackson videos to South Park videos. Today, Sora users on reddit are pretty much beside themselves because of newly enabled content restrictions. They are (apparently) no longer able to generate these types…

These video generators are mostly useful for memes at this point, and adding copyright shackles make it a lot less useful for memeing.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by 1gn15 »

martin-t wrote: post #46
ronsor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing we need is an emergency copyright deprecation.

So people who spend time working on code or art should have exactly zero protection against somebody else just taking their work and using it to make money?

Yes.

(The "takers" also do not have copyright protection.)

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by eclipticplane »

piskov wrote: post #19

Broke: cure cancer, new physics, agi, take your jobs, what have you. Please give us a trillion. Woke: AI slop tictoc to waste millions of human-hours.

> AI slop tictoc to waste millions of human-hours.

Don't forget the power it consumes from an already overloaded grid [while actively turning off new renewable power sources], the fresh water data centers consume for cooling, and the noise pollution forced on low-income residents.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by signatoremo »

CPLX wrote: post #22
minimaxir wrote: post #2

Yeah, Nintendo called, and faster than expected. > People are generating much more than we expected per user, and a lot of videos are being generated for very small audiences. What did OpenAI expect, really? They imposed no meaningful generation limits and and "very small audiences" is literally the point of an invite-only program.

Indeed. If you read between the lines that’s clearly it. And on that note can I add how much I truly despise sentences like this: > We are hearing from a lot of rightsholders who are very excited for this new kind of "interactive fan fiction" and think this new kind of engagement will accrue a lot of value to them, but want the ability to specify how their characters can be used (including not at all). To me this sen…

You may not like their message, but the style can be found in practically any public communication from any corporation. Read a layoff announcement from Novo Nordisk as an example [1]. No difference.

This is what I don’t like about HN, manufactured outrage when one dislikes the messenger. No substance whatsoever.

When users are given such a powerful tool like Sora, there will naturally be conflicts. If one makes a video putting a naked girl in a sacred Buddhist temple in Bangkok, how do you think Thai people will react?

This is OpenAI attempting balancing acts between conflicting interests, while trying to make money.

[1]-https://www.novonordisk.com/content/nncorp/global/en/news-an...

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