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Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are already attribution technologies that are reliable and definitive. There's no real technical reason that they wouldn't have the capability to directly attribute accounts. Now.. is any of that gonna stop John or Joan Q Public who has a running disagreement with their asian or hispanic neighbor from calling in a "tip"? Probably not. Will that tip result in an automated digital proctology exam that may land th…

> There are already attribution technologies that are reliable and definitive. Gonna stop you right there and ask you to back that up. It's not plausible. Especially not if people are actively trying to mess up the "attribution".

E.g., https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016 from 2022. Only N-gram frequency analysis, no modern ML techniques needed.

Probably time for somebody to revisit this topic with an actual model.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#55

It’s pretty clear that ICE is the seed of a paramilitary force.

Is it true there like 15 Million undocumented people in the country? I thought there were like 1 million max.

They've been saying 11 million for at least a couple decades that I can remember. It's probably a lot higher now, but no one in a position to find out has ever wanted to know.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#56

Given how many accounts online are bots or anonymous, will they ever be able to shake out which real people which personas belong to? Or will it be a case of "we said this is you, so that makes it you"?

The causation chain here is "we don't like someone so we find dirt on him online and arrest them over thought crime"

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

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post #49

Some people: "Great, this will help them get criminals and other bad people off the street." Some other people: "More fascism. This is Trump's version of the SS. It's absolutely horrible and we are doomed if this continues." The world continues to spin.

Some other other people: "i can't tell the difference between rotten apples and fresh oranges. therefore all fruit is shit."

But which one do you think is accurate? Here's an article to consider, where ICE broke into an apartment building without warrants to arrest citizens and children. Does this sound like Gestapo tactics or no?: https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-...

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#59
Nationwide secret police with paramilitary capabilities only answerable to a few people in the executive branch? Completely unconstitutional, violating all the clauses on warrantless searches, detention without trial, etc.?

Looks like ICE should be abolished and its entire staff fired, just have INS take over all immigration issues.

Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they’ll use bots to detect the bots. I guarantee it’s not hard to detect outliers (bots) via many different heuristics at this point. It’s going to turn into a perpetual game of whack a mole just like SEO and ad blocking.

I'm going to modify my keyboard to generate em-dash when I input "-"...

That works well until the following doesn't compile

int x = 1 — 2;

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