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Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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All Amazon apps are buggy and broken. The Amazon shopping app is awful, a bunch of put together web pages hanging on for dear life. Amazon optimise for sales and metrics over anything else.

> optimise for sales and metrics I take you have some insider knowledge... if the app is hanging for dear life, how is that helping optimize the sales pipeline?

It's a mess but the main flows just about function so it makes money.

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm British, but having never been into football (or any sport really) I wasn't aware of this TV blackout; given what I do know of people who don't necessarily support the local team, this sounds like madness, also how does this work for away games? I know loads of people who live/work in London now who still support their home town team. So, to make sure I understand this correctly; if I…

To answer your last question, yes. You would have to go watch your local lower non-league team if you wanted to watch football. I suspect your London friends are using VPNs and/or illegal streams, or simply just following scores or watching watchalongs, Soccer Saturday etc. Games outwith the Saturday blackout can be watched legally, bigger teams usually on TV or via club streaming services. Games are often scheduled…

This is quite the revelation. I had no idea that matches can't be watched on TV as they play. is there not even a pay-to-watch service, like with fights?

I've certainly got something to talk about next time I see some of my football fan friends, and I'll have to ask what they do to watch the games, I'm not aware of any of them actually going to the matches when I've known the local (Premier League) team to be playing.

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I find Amazon’s software for streaming much slower and buggier than other providers. The streams too also seem to have more issues.

What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

I'm not in the Apple ecosystem, but I have an Apple TV. It really "just works", has been the less annoying out of the various devices I've used over the years (Roku, Fire stick etc.) My only nit is the stupid easy to lose remote, but I use a Harmony universal remote to avoid that stupidity.

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What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

You don't need to be in the Apple ecosystem to buy an Apple TV and only use non-Apple services. The only thing that will probably suck is the lack of things like MiraCast and Google's Casting stuff, but you could use third party AirPlay software (still free IIRC) to stream whatever you want if you want to use screen mirroring. These days people tend to use their media boxes as App Launchers for other services anyway,…

Yeah, the Apple TV would be my suggestion as well even if it's your only Apple device. Other than streaming service apps (Netflix, Hulu, etc...) I think the only app I've installed is Tailscale. It's a great device that is slightly more privacy respecting than similar devices from Roku or Smart TV manufacturers.

I've never owned a Mac before but now I'm thinking about getting one just so I can write software to run on my Apple TV. It's a pretty powerful computer that's tiny, silent, always on, barely uses any power, and is connected to my TV.

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I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

It's not the tech for the most part... it's how Amazon is using it. For comparison, Netflix uses React and React-Native as does Facebook and their apps perform pretty well.

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I find Amazon’s software for streaming much slower and buggier than other providers. The streams too also seem to have more issues.

I wonder if the Vega stuff will be much better. There's really nothing to like about the Fire TV sticks. I bought the 4K Max thinking it might be the best option for 4K streaming from all of the major providers as an upgrade for my aging Mi Box (3, I think); aside from the home screen being majority advert, the AV sync is constantly out and differs per-app, so changing it for one makes another worse, WiFi signal is p…

They're a bit overpriced, but I've been exceedingly happy with Shield TV (Pro) boxes since they first came out... all the major streaming services are supported with full res as well as Kodi for lan and most other apps direct or side loaded.

I'm able to playback H.265 and AV1 video content at 4k@60 without any issues.

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To answer your last question, yes. You would have to go watch your local lower non-league team if you wanted to watch football. I suspect your London friends are using VPNs and/or illegal streams, or simply just following scores or watching watchalongs, Soccer Saturday etc. Games outwith the Saturday blackout can be watched legally, bigger teams usually on TV or via club streaming services. Games are often scheduled…

This is quite the revelation. I had no idea that matches can't be watched on TV as they play. is there not even a pay-to-watch service, like with fights? I've certainly got something to talk about next time I see some of my football fan friends, and I'll have to ask what they do to watch the games, I'm not aware of any of them actually going to the matches when I've known the local (Premier League) team to be playing…

No, only if you're outside of the UK or if it's an international break when international teams are playing (World Cup, Euros etc.) on a Saturday at 3pm.

Outside the blackout games are on TV as per usual.

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I'm assuming they've basically replaced the walled garden with a greenhouse with these changes to Vega OS? At least it (hopefully) means no more stupid "cracked fire TV sticks" on the local market. The end-user-support experience is downright awful and I'm sick of having to explain to people I can't help with them.

They'll find another Android based device to use instead. The main reason, at least around the people I know, people buy Fire Sticks is to watch football/soccer at 3pm on a Saturday (there's a UK wide blackout to encourage fans to go to their local game, albeit if you're a fan of a club far away or a Premier League team you're going to struggle to get there, games are still aired abroad, IPTV services skirt round thi…

I won't use my "smart" features in my TVs... I'd get rid of them if I could... The tracking is generally worse than Apple, Google or Roku on them. I know some are using Google or Roku software, but even then, just not a fan. I've been pretty happy with Shield TV boxes for around a decade now.

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The nice thing about sticks is when you go on trips or vacation. You’re authenticated into all of your subscriptions already and don’t have to sign in. The convenience of using sticks they eliminate the need to sign in at hotels or other places, which is why I love them.

Yes and combine with a travel router so you don’t have to endure logging into a wifi portal with a soft keyboard on the TV, if the stick OS even allows it. Then having to repeat the process daily due to expiration times, or as soon as you remove the key card from the hotel room slot, causing the router to power down and the TV stick to time out.

Top tip, if you're in a hotel room you can often put any card like item (e.g. loyalty card) into the slot and it still works.

This works at a lot of chain hotels. Not every hotel, but a lot of them. In the UK this works in most Premier Inns and Travelodges, doesn't work in Point A hotels from experience.

Alternatively ask for two or more cards at the desk.

If the room is cleaned daily the cleaners have a tendency to remove them though. The chain hotels only tend to clean if you ask though, or on a certain few days after check-in.

Helps if you want to keep the air con on or devices powered up.

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