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U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

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Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

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post #30

Aren't the rejection reasons true of every US EV truck? They all have gross vehicle weight ratings over 3.5 tons, they all lack speed limiters, and they all fail EU pedestrian safety regulations. The only exception I know of is the F-150 Lightning. It's allowed in Europe outside the EU (Norway & Switzerland), though its maximum load is limited to 805kg (including passengers) to keep it below the 3,500kg limit.[1] Edi…

Not the sharp edges, no. That's a cybertruck "special".

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#52
post #22

It absolutely can be imported and registered.

How? Even if it violates the safety standards? Or are you saying it doesn’t?

In many East European countries you can likely still get a license plate by bribing the right people

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#53

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Not knowing how testing works or the criteria in USA/Canada, I'm surprised it's even allowed here. I'd rather be hit as a pedestrian by almost any other truck since at least F-150s and RAMs don't have sharp edges like the Cybertruck...

But again, here in the US we are an order of magnitude less likely to be hit by a car. EDIT: Than being in a car accident Obviously we could get into incentives and prioritizing pedestrian safety and urbanizing. But if you take the current status quo of where Americans live and how they drive, I can very much understand regulators choosing to prioritize the safety regulations that will save the largest number of live…

> But again, here in the US we are an order of magnitude less likely to be hit by a car.

Huh - do you have a source for that stat?

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#54
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But again, here in the US we are an order of magnitude less likely to be hit by a car. EDIT: Than being in a car accident Obviously we could get into incentives and prioritizing pedestrian safety and urbanizing. But if you take the current status quo of where Americans live and how they drive, I can very much understand regulators choosing to prioritize the safety regulations that will save the largest number of live…

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2020/10/10/exactly-how-far-u-s-s...

You're right, I misrepresented the idea. Part of the thing is that US roads are just so much more dangerous in every way. Here's the actual data:

US pedestrian fatalities 2 per 100k. US driver fatalities ~7 per 100k.

European pedestrian fatalities: 0.5 per 100k. European driver fatalities: ~2 per 100k.

So it's somewhat understandable that regulators may disproportionately favor crash protection for drivers.

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#55
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a CIA worker in the UK that drove on the wrong side of the road, killed someone and fled the country.

I thought it was the wife of the official, but maybe I'm misremembering things..

She was CIA too.

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#56

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The Army needs to be able to move military hardware around the world quickly. Maybe they consider this good practice.

Unless things have changed, these are typically shipped on commercial vessels with the DOD covering the cost.

OK, but maybe they plan to use the same group of commercial shippers for the miltary hardware. (Now you are going to tell me that most of these shippers are Chinese, completely demolishing my conjecture.)

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#57

I am more surprised we are paying for soldiers to ship their vehicles around the world.

It's a pretty robust logistics system. The tour lengths are 2-3 years. If your job demanded that you relocate to another continent for 3 years I think we'd all expect some relocation assistance.

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#58

EU and US testing criteria are very different - in the US, motor vehicles leaving the roadway and impacting stationary objects is the top source of traffic fatalities. In the EU, it's pedestrian impacts (which makes sense corresponding to the urban vs rural environments in each). The EU has very stringent testing for pedestrian safety: https://www.euroncap.com/en/car-safety/the-ratings-explained... . One of the tests…

Not knowing how testing works or the criteria in USA/Canada, I'm surprised it's even allowed here. I'd rather be hit as a pedestrian by almost any other truck since at least F-150s and RAMs don't have sharp edges like the Cybertruck...

There's a really good video by Road Guy Rob that goes into very good detail about the specific causes of pedestrian fatalities in the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEj-pyjA2oo

TL;DW: It's most likely happening at night, on an arterial street, by a truck or SUV.

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#59
post #42
post #10

As someone who lives near two of the largest USAF bases in Europe, I'm glad the Americans can import vehicles too wide for the average street because it allows the locals to identify them at a distance and somewhat anticipate their non-existent (and often illegal) driving habits.

There was a CIA worker in the UK that drove on the wrong side of the road, killed someone and fled the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

An increasingly common problem in the UK: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4kqq8dw00o

Re: U.S. Army confirms Tesla Cybertruck can't be imported in Europe

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Army needs to be able to move military hardware around the world quickly. Maybe they consider this good practice.

Unless things have changed, these are typically shipped on commercial vessels with the DOD covering the cost.

Yes, that's likely much cheaper than loading up an aircraft carrier with a bunch of Mustangs and Silverados. They're still likely bound to some sort of lowest bidder for contracts. It's also likely to be more economical than having the person find their own transport and reimbursing them.
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