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Re: Kagi News

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Post by BeetleB »

__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

It's not binary - it's a continuum.

When you go to Google News, the way they group together stories is AI (pre-LLM technology). Kagi is merely taking it one step further.

I agree with your concern. I see this as a convenient grouping, and if any interests me I can skip reading the LLM summary and just click on the sources they provide (making it similar to Google News).

Re: Kagi News

#52

Post by bdunks »

e40 wrote: post #42

I'm not affiliated, but I've used https://www.memeorandum.com/ for more than a decade. Gives me a good high-level view of the news. I'm a Kagi customer and I definitely don't want anything they do with the news.

> I'm a Kagi customer and I definitely don't want anything they do with the news.

Can you expand on why?

Re: Kagi News

#53

Post by rfarley04 »

lol I added 'trump', 'republican', and 'democrat' as custom filter keywords and now it's showing zero stories in the USA category. So apparently, that category is a stand in for politics? Although I have the Thai category enabled (since I live there) and that's all run of the mill national (non political) news.

Nice release nonetheless!

Re: Kagi News

#54

Post by bigstrat2003 »

__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

Thanks for pointing out that this is yet more AI slop. Very disappointing for Kagi to do this. I get my money's worth from searches, but if I was looking for more features I would want them to be not AI-based.

Re: Kagi News

#55

Post by BeetleB »

joshstrange wrote: post #45

I wish there was a way to look at a previous day's news. I can't seem to find any buttons/UI that lets you look at news from any day but today.

That's a good idea. If they implement it, I would however suggest putting a limit on to it - perhaps only let you see the news within the last week/month.

Re: Kagi News

#56

Post by atonse »

__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

I'm genuinely asking, but have you tried it? https://kite.kagi.com

It actually seems more like an aggregator (like ground.news) to me. And pretty much every single sentence cites the original article(s).

There are nice summaries within an article. I think what they mean is that they generate a meta-article after combining the rest of them. There's nothing novel here.

But the presentation of the meta-article and publishing once a day feel like great features.

Re: Kagi News

#57

Post by boxed »

I think a fundamental issue with news is that it doesn't try to push people to have a more correct mental model of the world.

Some things that could change that:

- Deep fact checking. Community Notes on twitter do a better job at this than any other system I've seen. The reason it doesn't really work in practice is that the stream of misinformation and confusion is orders of magnitude larger than the Community Notes community. A news app should not have that scalability issue.

- Follow up. If I read something that later turns out to be false I need to be notified of that. This unfortunately requires that the app track what I have read.

- Context. If you have a news article about a stabbing, it sounds like stabbings are up. The context that they are going up or down statistically is extremely relevant. The lack of context can turn a tiny truth into a bigger lie.

- Deep confusion analysis. Figuring out where people are confused statistically and focusing on trying to manage that misinformation gap is not something that is dealt with at all. I would like to become LESS confused by information sources not more.

Re: Kagi News

#58

Post by insane_dreamer »

rfarley04 wrote: post #53

lol I added 'trump', 'republican', and 'democrat' as custom filter keywords and now it's showing zero stories in the USA category. So apparently, that category is a stand in for politics? Although I have the Thai category enabled (since I live there) and that's all run of the mill national (non political) news. Nice release nonetheless!

It’s probably hard to find an article these days that doesn’t mention one of those words (except maybe celebrity gossip). The world we live in.

Re: Kagi News

#60

Post by Sweepi »

"Indonesia school collapse leaves 38 missing, 77 hurt" is categorized as "Disaster". I cannot see where to disable this category.
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