Right because the UK is such a safe place.
On the Global Peace Index, the UK is number 30 in the world and the USA is 128, below Rwanda, China, South Africa, India, Bangladesh.
Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
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Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#52This relies on, normatively, shame, and legally, a Stasi-esque police state. I don’t know what about the last twenty years of politics or culture would imply the former is an option.
> This relies on, normatively, shame, and legally, a Stasi-esque police state.
You can get the populace to swallow surveillance if you give them an enemy. See: PATRIOT act. Anyone wanna take bets on what this one will be called.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#53I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…
I just assume that there's a recording of me, at pretty much all times. I have always acted as if I was under scrutiny, anyway, so it's not been that big a deal, but it is annoying, to have it as a fact of life; as opposed to a personal choice for living.
Even when people are doing stuff like browsing pr0n, there's likely to be someone paying attention. Maybe not like those silly spam emails, but they know that we watched dwarf pr0n.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#54For a description of the consequences of mass surveillance and repressive regimentation of individual behavior in a society, read:
"Nineteen Eighty-Four" by George Orwell.[a]
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Ireland doesn't fit your claim.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#56I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…
> and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person.
The long march of us making terrible decisions with technology continues. I'm not sure how to get away from it.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#57Why is it that every single person born between 1940 and 1965 (or making more than $1 million per year) just wants to see all freedoms erased and every natural resource exhausted for their personal comfort?
This is deeply unfair. Plenty of people, including those responsible for more focus on environment and human rights, are in that age group. They are leaders and allies. Ageism is just another way divide society.
You are correct, I put income level in there too. We can't let Peter Thiel or Mark Zuckerberg off the hook either.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#58I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…
> Whether we like it or not,
Seems to be an awful lot of that recently to justify anything, from mass surveillance to crypto fascism. "Its just how things are guys, law of nature!". As citizens of a civilized society, we collectively get to shape and orient how legislation is put into practice. But ofc, if all you and people like you have to offer is pre-deterministic fallacies, then we are indeed screwed.
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#591984 was meant to be a satire, not a manual.
I always felt the movie "Brazil" was the satire. 1984 was the horror film.
Ultimately both are just movies and I dislike when people compare them to the real world given how exaggerated they are, but the basic premise of Brazil happens regularly: one piece of paperwork filed incorrectly can seriously impact your life.
See this woman for an example: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/live-woman-decl...
Re: Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording
#60This relies on, normatively, shame, and legally, a Stasi-esque police state. I don’t know what about the last twenty years of politics or culture would imply the former is an option.
> This relies on, normatively, shame, and legally, a Stasi-esque police state. You can get the populace to swallow surveillance if you give them an enemy. See: PATRIOT act. Anyone wanna take bets on what this one will be called.
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