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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by Gigachad »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

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Post by haskellshill »

brna-2 wrote: post #15

Wow, such a nice idea with the purple lanyard it would be great to have something like this in general, walking down the streets someone films you and them or even YT or viewers to scan/flag the videos in question. I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie. Maybe we could also create a framework on existing legislation - design a lanyard, put a QR on it leading to a "I do not consent" site. Advertise it…

Great idea, and soon there will be a "I accept to be recorded in public" button you need to press before you're let out of your house.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by mapontosevenths »

maxehmookau wrote: post #22
Forgeties79 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I don't look forward to mass adoption of things like Meta glasses, where even the mundane examples of _going outside_ are all content opportunities waiting to happen. My first experience akin to this happened when I was at the grocery store during Covid. This guy stood near the checkout lines and just did a big arc with his phone filming all of us and mocking masks. Like the author of the blog sometimes I’m just lik…

Yeah, because he's right, it is a free country. He shouldn't be arrested, or thrown in prison for it. But I'm also free to apply societal pressure to behave like a grown-up.

> societal pressure to behave like a grown-up.

I think this is the key.

It might be legal, but it's not polite. It's a bit like blasting crappy music from your phone on the bus without headphones. Grown ups should know better.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by balderdash »

I think the laws around this are fairly antiquated. People should clearly have the right to photograph in public, however, I strongly believe that should someone take someone else’s photograph they shouldn’t need their consent to post the photo publicly or monetize it in anyway. Obviously, there should be some limited car outs like public servants in the commission of their duties, legitimate news organizations, use in court etc.

Edit: I don’t think k posting a photo on a private social media profile / group chat would count as public, but rather anything the general public has access to.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by hamjilkjr »

crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

They could also blur the requester's face for the second or two it's likely in frame in the process they're very likely already editing the video before posting

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Post by andersa »

crazygringo wrote: post #45
ixsploit wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you know, not making it public. And if you might need to make the photo public, you could blur the faces.

And your want to make that the law, so you get fined or go to jail if you don't blur everyone's face on every photo you post if you haven't gotten a signed consent from them?

Yes.

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Post by haskellshill »

Ekaros wrote: post #25
brna-2 wrote: post #15

Wow, such a nice idea with the purple lanyard it would be great to have something like this in general, walking down the streets someone films you and them or even YT or viewers to scan/flag the videos in question. I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie. Maybe we could also create a framework on existing legislation - design a lanyard, put a QR on it leading to a "I do not consent" site. Advertise it…

I think even better option is some type of public opt-in. Maybe purple or green screen lanyard. Publishing material of anyone without one would not be allowed. Doesn't seem too big ask to edit out anyone who has not opted-in. Especially in age of AI that should make it trivial.

Sorry, but why even care about this? Is it an invasion of your privacy if strangers see you walking down the street? If no, how is strangers seeing you walking down the street in the background of some youtube video a privacy violation??

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

brna-2 wrote: post #34
paulcole wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is solved. Videos and photos are allowed in public spaces. You just don’t like the solution.

Heh, you could be right on this one. But on the other hand, if I was the one filming and I knew a person in the frame wanted more privacy if possible I would be glad to omit them or cut them out.

But you can already do that.

This discussion isn't about what's polite.

It's about what you think ought to be against the law. And being fined or thrown in jail if you break the law.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by sharperguy »

jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

The venues for these things are private and so they can set their own rules. The author proposes a rule: A simple purple lanyard indicating that you don't wish to be included in the published film.

This doesn't necessarily need to be an article, because the author could have just handled it with each venue individually, but this just gets the conversation going about general sentiment and wider applicability.

My guess is that early on this kind of youtuber was relatively rare and so being captured occasionally wasn't a big deal, but that now the trend is catching on, a it's happening regularly and becoming a concern for some people.

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