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You left out the rest of the paragraph (emphasis mine): > I remember being extremely sympathetic to this perspective , having also wasted countless hours of my life maintaining open source for free only for others to benefit from it. I also recall a figure like either $200 or $250 per hour being mentioned as the rate he was effectively paying himself. Whatever the rate actually was, I distinctly remember thinking, "h…
Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
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Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
You left out the rest of the paragraph (emphasis mine): > I remember being extremely sympathetic to this perspective , having also wasted countless hours of my life maintaining open source for free only for others to benefit from it. I also recall a figure like either $200 or $250 per hour being mentioned as the rate he was effectively paying himself. Whatever the rate actually was, I distinctly remember thinking, "h…
400k is about the total comp for most FANG devs. Plus theirs no proof he was constantly billing that. The only issue is a lack of transparency.
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#53Context: Justin Searls is a “high profile” person in the Ruby and Rails community. He has a reputation for being a nice person and behaving in good faith. From a personal standpoint, I can easily take his words at face value. I’m also curious about the views of Aaron “tenderlove” Patterson, who has a similar reputation. Now that Justin has spoken out, maybe Aaron will take the opportunity to. Both tend to stay out of…
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#54Context: Justin Searls is a “high profile” person in the Ruby and Rails community. He has a reputation for being a nice person and behaving in good faith. From a personal standpoint, I can easily take his words at face value. I’m also curious about the views of Aaron “tenderlove” Patterson, who has a similar reputation. Now that Justin has spoken out, maybe Aaron will take the opportunity to. Both tend to stay out of…
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
You left out the rest of the paragraph (emphasis mine): > I remember being extremely sympathetic to this perspective , having also wasted countless hours of my life maintaining open source for free only for others to benefit from it. I also recall a figure like either $200 or $250 per hour being mentioned as the rate he was effectively paying himself. Whatever the rate actually was, I distinctly remember thinking, "h…
$200 /hr is a pretty low consulting rate. You are never going to be 100% utilized, so right off the bat you can divide that $400k by at least 50% over a long period of time. You also have to pay for your own insurance, equipment... $200 /hr would be what I would consider to be the going rate for any mid level, non-FAANG type developer and pretty fair imho!
So yeah, if I can't get the benefit of taking off of my taxes, I do want paid. Can't afford it otherwise, since my labor is taxed and simultaneously valued as 0 as a volunteer.
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
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You left out the rest of the paragraph (emphasis mine): > I remember being extremely sympathetic to this perspective , having also wasted countless hours of my life maintaining open source for free only for others to benefit from it. I also recall a figure like either $200 or $250 per hour being mentioned as the rate he was effectively paying himself. Whatever the rate actually was, I distinctly remember thinking, "h…
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#58I wonder if there's a term for this kind of thing where people use the word "including". As an example, I might have a non-profit that serves soup at soup kitchens and also pays me to manage it. If someone gives $100k, suppose I pay myself $90k and use $10k to serve soup. When someone threatens to cut the contribution, I say "This will affect the non-profit's mission since the $100k a year goes to critical things lik…
I think you’d call it a type of ‘lie of omission’.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission
But also with some elements of ‘category error’
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#59This seems to be mostly "I dislike Andre" and not really about the current events? I think a total of half a paragraph is about current events in any form.
This article is the missing piece explaining why:
1. Shopify, allegedly, "specifically demanded that at least one of the RubyGems maintainers, André Arko, be excluded from returning to the project."[0]
2. Rafael França, a member of Rails Core, publicly listed concerns[1] about "competitor tooling"/"admin trust" r.e. rv.
Both are components of Joel Drapper's post that gave me pause on my first read, as these statements aren't something said without basis. That basis being correct or not is another matter, but I wouldn't expect either Shopify or a member of Rails Core to have such concerns simply because they don't like someone.
Personally, I don't come away from this article with the sense the author dislikes André, just that there's perhaps more rationale coming from a camp that's largely not said much so far.
Looking into the crystal ball of future predictions, the battle lines we're going to see in the Ruby community will be based around the acceptance or rejection of some of the allegations here about Ruby Together's spending.
I recall Ruby Together advocating for personal sponsorships in addition to corporate. It's one thing to be treating Apple adapters as disposable HB pencils & buying dinners on the company card if companies are funding you, but it's a different matter of fiscal responsibility when you're potentially spending personal donations.
Coming out of this, I'll suspect everyone will align that open-source contributors should be paid, and companies should in some way support open-source, but we'll see fractures over if André's alleged behaviour is acceptable.
I'm looking forward to someone/something assembling an entity which is trustworthy & responsible. If Ruby Central can't be that entity, we'll need a replacement.
[0]: https://joel.drapper.me/p/rubygems-takeover/#:~:text=Shopify...
[1]: https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpob...
Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco
#60This seems to be mostly "I dislike Andre" and not really about the current events? I think a total of half a paragraph is about current events in any form.
> Later, in August 2017, Andre accused Google Cloud Platform of wholesale copying gemstash's codebase, going so far as to threaten legal action in his opening message. He juxtaposed the accusation with the complaint that Google had, "repeatedly declined to support Ruby Together." The incident appeared to fit a pattern of behavior to pair high-conflict messaging with an admonition of the target's failure to fund the organization that paid him. Ultimately, Andre's claim turned out to be factually baseless—Google hadn't copied gemstash's code, after all.
The history strongly suggests a pattern behind current events.