You don't have to hack anything if you control ip routes. A simple redirect like a captive portal could accomplish something like this. Israel can either own the gateways or own the spectrum.
Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
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Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
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> too much Tom Clancy. Isn't this is the nation that planted explosives into pagers? I think they're the ones reading too much Clancy. > so can one of the most technologically-proficient governments. How would you feel if China did this to your nation? Would you marvel at their proficiency or perhaps focus on the complete lack of diplomacy it displays?
I would feel that the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection is doing a lousy job. So he should surrender and spare us the war. How would you feel? Insulted?
> the responsible adult that was in charge of my protection
So you're infantilizing an entire nation to make this point?
> So he should surrender and spare us the war.
Do you have any measure on this sentiment among the population currently? If it is, as it is in so many places, that the leaders actions are detached from the will of the voters, then what should we make of this?
Should they be allowed to surrender to a _neutral_ party?
Should they be allowed to keep their state?
Is there any reason not to presume a peaceful negotiation under these terms? Is there any reason to attempt to assassinate the party trying to coordinate this?
> How would you feel? Insulted?
Violated. These are _our_ emergency broadcast services. They should be used for the intended purpose and not to force an angry political message on a powerless population.
Do you not have any good faith in yourself for this topic?
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> It was the largest genocide against Jews since the Holocaust Is genocide now basically hate crime in American English? Was Osama bin Laden bent on genocide? Does the Westborough Baptist Church have genocidal aims against the gay community?
"After the deadly offensive by Hamas against Israel in October 2023, Ismail Haniyeh, who replaced Mashaal as head of the Hamas political bureau in exile, again invoked religious rhetoric. “Today, the enemy has had a political, military, intelligence, security and moral defeat inflicted upon it, and we shall crown it, with the grace of God, with a crushing defeat that will expel it from our lands, our holy city of al Quds, our al Aqsa mosque, and the release of our prisoners from the jails of the Zionist occupation,” he said." [1]
Excerpts from the Hamas Covenant [1]:
"Article 8:
Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes."
"Article 15:
The day that enemies usurp part of Muslim land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Muslim. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised."
Hamas' *literal* goal is the extermination of Jews and the Jewish people. That's literally genocide.[2][3]
[1] https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas
[2] https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis...
[3] https://opil.ouplaw.com/display/10.1093/law:epil/97801992316...
...now don't get me wrong — I don't side with Netanyahu or what his government have been doing — but that doesn't change the fact that Hamas' goal is the eradication of the only Jewish state in the world, and it's people — actual genocide.
The attacks on October 7, 2023 were much more than a "hate crime" as you mistakenly claim... and your whataboutism is just immature, and isn't conducive to actual discourse.
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#54No one has mentioned that "hacked" appears nowhere in the tweet and seems to be editorializing on the part of the submitter.
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
You probably took your security for granted? I'm being perfectly serious, RCEs like this are table-stakes for modern cyber-warfare.
Cyber-warfare probably shouldn't involve the entire civilian population's phones.
If factories filled with civilians are fair game for conventional attacks in total war. Why not cyber attacks on cell phones and electronics needed by the civilians to do those same jobs?
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#56"Those who do not will be hunted" just feels gross. There's something sinister there
In the verbally given version of the speech that isn't shortened to a tweet ( https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/israel-pm-says-they-use... ) this is explicitly directed "to the jailers of our hostages", and in that context, it seems pretty reasonable.
> and in that context, it seems pretty reasonable.
Let's allow the ICC to decide that for us, with the wealth of available evidence at their disposal.
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the verbally given version of the speech that isn't shortened to a tweet ( https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/israel-pm-says-they-use... ) this is explicitly directed "to the jailers of our hostages", and in that context, it seems pretty reasonable.
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Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#58I feel kind of weird that Netanyahu was allowed to give a speech from the UN HQ. It’s rather like allowing Putin to do so.
Mamdani has said once elected he will arrest Netanyahu if he returns.
He didn't mention any legal basis for the thread. A city major can't exactly overrule congress and sign the Rome Statute.
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
#59How come the more I hear about what Israel or Israeli companies can do with our devices makes me just not want to use a device at all? Maybe my tinfoil hat is too tight? Why are they so bold with their abilities while other countries are not? Are they just that much better, or are other nation states just better at keeping quiet?
I think the boldness is a combination of 1) marketing to governments and organizations around the world and 2) knowing there will be no consequences either domestic or international for what they do.
Re: Israel took control of Gaza cellphones to stream PM Netanyahu's UN Speech live
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> It was the largest genocide against Jews since the Holocaust Is genocide now basically hate crime in American English? Was Osama bin Laden bent on genocide? Does the Westborough Baptist Church have genocidal aims against the gay community?
"After the deadly offensive by Hamas against Israel in October 2023, Ismail Haniyeh, who replaced Mashaal as head of the Hamas political bureau in exile, again invoked religious rhetoric. “Today, the enemy has had a political, military, intelligence, security and moral defeat inflicted upon it, and we shall crown it, with the grace of God, with a crushing defeat that will expel it from our lands, our holy city of al…
Maybe not doing everything we can to legitimise Hamas by dehumanising the entire Palestinian people would be a start. Back a dog into a corner then euthanise it for biting you... Disgusting