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Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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In case if you don't know, Auth.js is not a frontend-only framework. It uses a backend server to make it secure. So it basically has no difference from the alternatives you mentioned.

> make it secure It's convenient, I'll give them that. Secure? https://projectdiscovery.io/blog/nextjs-middleware-authoriza...

Well, that has nothing to do with JS itself though.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

We all know how this ends. The open source project ends up being crippled to the point it's no longer useful.

Not outright crippled; just strategically neglected compared to the paid variant, unless it’s effectively useless without paying. And then Vercel steps in, buys the whole thing, and Better Auth becomes „Next.js“ first, ideally only fully effective on Vercel.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

We all know how this ends. The open source project ends up being crippled to the point it's no longer useful.

I would say once a company becomes vc funded, it will have some different priorities.

Although Deno seems to be working out good so far. They are providing value to the general JS eco system. And yes there is Deno deploy, but competent sysadmin and DevOP people will have no trouble running it on their own and scaling.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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I really wish there was such an easy off-the shelf auth solution for Go

Agreed.

There are solutions out there for golang (FusionAuth, my employer, is one) but I think you are looking for one that integrates directly into an application the way that better-auth does (just like devise for rails, or Django's user model).

I'm not aware of any such library for golang. This reddit thread might be helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/1le9q65/is_there_a_... with some options to evaluate.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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We all know how this ends. The open source project ends up being crippled to the point it's no longer useful.

I would say once a company becomes vc funded, it will have some different priorities. Although Deno seems to be working out good so far. They are providing value to the general JS eco system. And yes there is Deno deploy, but competent sysadmin and DevOP people will have no trouble running it on their own and scaling.

Thing is though, where will they get their returns?

consulting? deploy hosted? (why not just use cf workers/vercel/etc.)

if there was a way for the industry to support these things by everyone pitching in, that'd probably be the best but I don't see that happening soon

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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Better Auth has raised $5M. I don’t think it’s great to see a truly free project get absorbed into a commercial venture.

Full disclosure, I work for FusionAuth, a commercial auth vendor which sponsored NextAuth.

People gotta eat. It's not like NextAuth didn't have commercial support from sponsors. I'm not privy to the details of how much money was involved, but you can read other comments about Clerk and Vercel and how they influenced the project.

I wrote more about the difficulties of OSS business models here a few years ago: https://www.mooreds.com/wordpress/archives/3438

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