Traefik's 10-year anniversary • Hacker News Board

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by AceJohnny2 » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:29 PM UTC

hoistbypetard wrote: post #5

I don't generally use/need Traefik. But the cheese shirt makes me unreasonably happy, and if it appeared for sale on some easily accessible site for a decent price, I'd very likely order one.

Well hey, if you can fix the ACME key reuse issue [1], which is just a Traefik mis-use of the underlying library (by the same authors!!!), you can just get one!

[1] https://github.com/traefik/traefik/issues/10103

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by monster_truck » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:29 PM UTC

miiiiiike wrote: post #2

Traefik's F/OSS projects are useless to me. Every single feature that I need to use is locked away in a closed source product. Close to the same issue with Varnish Enterprise. Why would I pay for Varnish Enterprise if I can't even review or extend the source? Know what I have to do with Varnish's source once a quarter? I have to look at it. Because the documentation is non-existent. The closed source version is going…

Same. At this point I've spent more time in devops moving away from shit that does this, and then doing it again, just to keep things as they are in a way that can be trusted. It fuckin sucks

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by skibbityboop » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:32 PM UTC

gethly wrote: post #36

I use Traefik for local development on daily basis, where I have to run double digit https services. It works, but it was a pain to set up. The documentation sucks ** and the config is confusing AF. I would never recommend this to anyone. If i will have to reinstall my computer one day, Traefik will not be welcomed back.

Yeah, kinda have to agree. I like traefik fine but getting mTLS working with it was a serious pain and the docs for doing so were _terrible_, had to keep searching around and piecing together bits from various third party blogs. Coming from haproxy where the documentation is _so_ _much_ better and things like e.g. mTLS are vastly easier, it was not a fun experience but we did finally get traefik to work as we needed.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by bigyabai » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:37 PM UTC

nickstinemates wrote: post #35

miiiiiike wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What features do you feel a more average of the target audience Auth and middleware packages that are essential for a production site. > I use it at home as part of my K8s cluster. That's not heavy use.

Running it in production for free and complaining about the offering is a choice.

A choice is a far cry from the "standard" the title purports.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by dewey » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

miiiiiike wrote: post #47

pjmlp wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have to put bread on the table somehow.

If I had access to the code I would pay for it. Create a private repo for paying customers.

The problem is that you would be one of the 1% doing that, the rest of the companies would just not bother with that and it will end like many open source problems that constantly have to come up with ways to get funding.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by kachapopopow » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 4:45 PM UTC

The first this I ever do when setting up k3s is pass --disable-traefik I don't know what it is, I never used it, never had the motivation to look into what I am losing out because everything else I am familiar with already works and I don't have many complains. I do not remember why I have this opinion, but I usually only treat software like this when they're trying to sell themselves too hard.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by kardianos » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 5:02 PM UTC

I use traefik quite a bit. Easy to use, easy to understand. Optional dashboard for understanding the current state of the configuration.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by tracker1 » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 5:06 PM UTC

gethly wrote: post #36

I use Traefik for local development on daily basis, where I have to run double digit https services. It works, but it was a pain to set up. The documentation sucks ** and the config is confusing AF. I would never recommend this to anyone. If i will have to reinstall my computer one day, Traefik will not be welcomed back.

I use caddy similarly, but it's a pretty straight forward setup.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by jrm4 » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

HexDecOctBin wrote: post #22

miiiiiike wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. If you're a heavy Traefik user you're eventually going to need a feature that has been carefully omitted from the F/OSS projects.

> If you're a heavy Traefik user... ...shouldn't you be paying then? Expecting developers to work for free to provide you with a product you use heavily is acting pretty entitled. Just to give a contrasting account, I have been using Traefik to manage my public server (a $4 Digital Ocean VPS running a web server and a Bluesky PDS) and my local home server (running dozens of services with all kinds of weird configurat…

No. That is emphatically NOT entitled -- if the Traefik people have made heavy use of "open source," either practically or in marketing.

If you tout "open source" ideas in the work you do, then you can reasonably be held to the social contract that the ideas of open source originate in.

Lately (by lately I mean maybe the last 20 years or so) there's the idea of "because the open source ish company needs to pay the bills, they can completely abandon the ideas of open source."

Nah. You took from the commons, the commons has at least SOME right to ask for something back.

Re: Traefik's 10-year anniversary

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Post by nodesocket » Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 5:14 PM UTC

miiiiiike wrote: post #2

Traefik's F/OSS projects are useless to me. Every single feature that I need to use is locked away in a closed source product. Close to the same issue with Varnish Enterprise. Why would I pay for Varnish Enterprise if I can't even review or extend the source? Know what I have to do with Varnish's source once a quarter? I have to look at it. Because the documentation is non-existent. The closed source version is going…

I’ve deployed Traefik in-front of Kubernetes on some moderately large traffic sites with and without enterprise licensing. Recently I switched to using Caddy though. I know the stigma is that Caddy is not “production” ready and battle tested but I haven’t encountered any issues with it in terms of performance. It just works. Let’s Encrypt with CloudFlare DNS verification is super easy to setup and the configuration is very intuitive.