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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Good news. Bad news is that many countries came close to wiping out measles et al. too, but it takes sustained effort to keep things like that.

Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

And even before the antivax nutters here went from fringe to a significant social force, HPV vaccines were already being decried for "promoting casual sex." Our culture is so broken in so many ways.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

Any way to test for previous exposure? I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't already have antibodies. I suppose it doesn't matter though.

HPV tests are of low value (as an adult, if ever sexually active, you likely have it but can do nothing about it); a new biomarker test that can detect the cancers is being developed [1]. Ongoing cancer surveillance is all you can do once exposed without having been vaccinated (and if cancer occurs, immunotherapy).

As pm90 wrote, I strongly recommend getting vaccinated [2] unless a doctor tells you otherwise, even if you already have HPV or have had previous potential exposure.

[1] Circulating tumor human papillomavirus DNA whole genome sequencing enables human papillomavirus-associated oropharynx cancer early detection - https://academic.oup.com/jnci/advance-article-abstract/doi/1... | https://doi.org/10.1093/jnci/djaf249

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine

(had three doses in my 30s via Planned Parenthood)

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#53
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

And even before the antivax nutters here went from fringe to a significant social force, HPV vaccines were already being decried for "promoting casual sex." Our culture is so broken in so many ways.

"Why haven't you cured cancer yet?"

"We have a vaccine to prevent some very serious cancers."

"But it might turn my daughter into a hussy."

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#54
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people existed, but a portable always-running conveyor belt of bad news that is addictive enough to make them glued to the screen did not. In the 1990s, you had maybe 15 minutes a day on average to consume news, either from a paper newspaper, or from an evening TV relation. Now, quite a lot of people spend 20 times as much time doomscrolling. Of course the impact will be much more massive.

Sure, but this implies the only source of "manipulation from other actors" is the news, media, or government. Churches, cults, and just other ignorant people existed to cause distrust in authority.

Those organizations didn't have instantaneous global reach. Now everyone does.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#55
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

If you live outside of the US, you should get vaccine too. Even one dose is effective.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/ivac/the-power-of-a-single-dose...

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#56
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

And note i believe they just increased the recommended age of administration up to ~40yo? Throat cancer sucks. Get the vax.

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#57
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

And note i believe they just increased the recommended age of administration up to ~40yo? Throat cancer sucks. Get the vax.

Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#58
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but this implies the only source of "manipulation from other actors" is the news, media, or government. Churches, cults, and just other ignorant people existed to cause distrust in authority.

Those organizations didn't have instantaneous global reach. Now everyone does.

I'm not denying that there's a difference - obviously technology has enabled the scale of things to grow quite a bit, both good and bad - but it's beside my point, which is that, given that it's not a new phenomenon, blaming it on technology seems doomed to failure. Without solving for the underlying issues, people will continue to mistrust authority, whether they're being told to by news or their neighbor.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And note i believe they just increased the recommended age of administration up to ~40yo? Throat cancer sucks. Get the vax.

Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?

> Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax

Vaccines are subject to stringent safety standards since they’re administered to healthy people. The age limit may suggest that at the time of the recommendation, in the relevant jurisdiction, the manufacturer had not studied its safety and efficacy in >40 year olds.

(I also don’t think it’s an age limit as much as the upper end of a recommendation.)

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#60

Cervical cancer (uterus), not skin cancer from a bad papillomas as I thought after looking up what HPV meant

It turns out a human body has a lot of surfaces facing the "outside" in some sense and we forget about the parts we can't see. Most of this surface is not covered in what we'd conventionally consider skin. It's bit like if you were looking at surfaces in a house and forgot the walls and ceiling.
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