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Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Oh boy, wait until Palantir makes a unified database of everyone, they won't even need to have a previous offense, they can make one based on all the collected information or even based on your behaviors. Great times ahead!

>> wait until Palantir makes a unified database of everyone, they won't even need to have a previous offense, they can make one based on all the collected information or even based on your behaviors. Well, I hear that if you make being gay a crime again, you cut off the head of palantir.

Prayer can do amazing things, including curing homosexuality. See Thiel's exploration of the "Antichrist".

I remember when I used to think Thiel had libertarian values!

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Taking OP at her word, this is a horrific tale of extra-judicial abuse of an individual for refusing to cooperate with the DoJ on a matter of digital privacy. The OP wants story amplification, but to what end? The DoJ, controlled by Trump and Pam Bondi, probably think this person is getting away lightly with only a severe head wound and a comfy 3-year stay in county jail. A trial isn't necessary cops know who's bad,…

> needs to post such sentiment anonymously

This will become practically impossible very soon if it isn't already.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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they are trying to set precedent. This can kill TOR or other privacy related services in USA easily in current environment.

Several years prior I had a coworker get arrested on CSAM charges because, you guessed it, he ran an Tor exit node.

Of course there was no reporting on the Tor aspect, just “local man arrested for CSAM” in the local papers. He eventually had the charges dropped after years of court battles, but his name is forever tarnished as a result.

This particular job we had a lot of idealist folks, two of whom ran relays - they immediately ceased to do so in the aftermath of the coworker’s arrest.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Taking OP at her word, this is a horrific tale of extra-judicial abuse of an individual for refusing to cooperate with the DoJ on a matter of digital privacy. The OP wants story amplification, but to what end? The DoJ, controlled by Trump and Pam Bondi, probably think this person is getting away lightly with only a severe head wound and a comfy 3-year stay in county jail. A trial isn't necessary cops know who's bad,…

I understand where you are coming from but I think that it is not always helpful to place everything on one administration. Calls for unity and a strengthening of the rule of law are what matter. Trump will be in for 4 years whether you like it or not, the long term protection of the rule of law should be highest priority and this case shows how it has been eroded over the last few years.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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This was posted only a month ago: https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-secret-history-of-tor... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44838378)

The article provides a good foundation for opposing arguments.

Excerpting:

> The researchers wanted to find a way to do the seemingly impossible — to give the military the benefits of a global, high-speed communications network without exposing them to the vulnerabilities of the metadata that the network relied on to operate.

> ...

> There are other implications, as well. For a CIA agent to use Tor without suspicion in non-U.S. nations, for example, there would need to be plenty of citizens in these nations using Tor for everyday internet browsing. Similarly, if the only users in a particular country are whistleblowers, civil rights activists and protesters, the government may well simply arrest anyone connecting to your anonymity network. As a result, an onion routing system had to be open to as wide a range of users and maintainers as possible, so that the mere fact that someone was using the system wouldn’t reveal anything about their identity or their affiliations.

> ...

> Anonymity loves company — so Tor needed to be sold to the general public. That necessity led to an unlikely alliance between cypherpunks and the U.S. Navy.

> The NRL researchers behind Onion routing knew it wouldn’t work unless everyday people used it, so they reached out to the cypherpunks and invited them into conversations about design and strategy to reach the masses.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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If anyone here has investments in US dollar denominated assets, move them out of the country. The US is entering a death spiral.

At least the troops will have short hair: https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/military/military-faci...

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy is not a deterrent to that. The state does what it wants and in the end it doesn't even need an excuse. An excuse is a nice to have, but that's it.

>The state does what it wants and in the end it doesn;t even need an excuse. It doesn't need an excuse because people let it not need an excuse. Every idiot, even on HN, heck, particularly on HN and other places where demographic factors result most never having been the target of government or think that they would be, is perfectly fine with it when the government behaves this way in pursuit of things they agree wit…

The state has more power and therefore does what it wants.

Anything other than that is just wishful thinking.

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