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Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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They had over 300 illegal workers in that plant: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj07jzgve45o

The US says they had over 300 illegals. Last time I checked, the US was not an omniscient teller of truth.

Yes, because they did in fact. The U.S. government keeps the records on visas. Hyundai damn sure isn't a source of truth here.

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

#52
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They had over 300 illegal workers in that plant: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj07jzgve45o

I doubt it. 300 people were detained, but not clear information in the public whether or not they were there legally.

No it says 475 were detained. There would be no need for South Korean government to reach a deal with the U.S. if everything was legal.

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

#53

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They had over 300 illegal workers in that plant: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj07jzgve45o

ICE said that all of them were here on invalid visas, which is clearly untrue based on the posted article. At this point, if an ICE agent told me it was a sunny day, I'd open my umbrella.

The South Korean government reached a deal with the U.S. to return 300 South Korean nationals on charter planes. That wouldn't be happening if they were here legally.

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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Baseless detainment and coercion, kicking a law-abiding America-contributing worker out of the country, interrupting the building of a new domestic factory, and making an allied country wary of working with us are the harms . You're just ignoring them, because you've been propagandized to think the victims deserved it.

That is a very different issue than what the article implies. The implication of the article was that something very illegal happened. What you're implying is not necessarily illegal, but I agree it is harmful.

I mean, someone was kidnapped, and then coerced into giving up their visa. Kidnapping is very illegal, and so is extortion.

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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That is a very different issue than what the article implies. The implication of the article was that something very illegal happened. What you're implying is not necessarily illegal, but I agree it is harmful.

I mean, someone was kidnapped, and then coerced into giving up their visa. Kidnapping is very illegal, and so is extortion.

Kidnapped or detained? These words mean the same thing to you?

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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I mean, someone was kidnapped, and then coerced into giving up their visa. Kidnapping is very illegal, and so is extortion.

Kidnapped or detained? These words mean the same thing to you?

I don't know what distinction you're trying to draw. I assumed they moved the victim some time in the course of the detainment. Call it unlawful detainment if you want.

Re: Leaked Ice document shows worker detained in Hyundai raid had valid visa

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The US says they had over 300 illegals. Last time I checked, the US was not an omniscient teller of truth.

Yes, because they did in fact. The U.S. government keeps the records on visas. Hyundai damn sure isn't a source of truth here.

Hyundai is more reliable than the US government for sure.
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