I greatly prefer Kagi https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/ but it's very nice to see more competition in this space in general.
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#52I greatly prefer Kagi https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/ but it's very nice to see more competition in this space in general.
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I signed up for a specialist forum not too long ago and posted an honest review of a product because I hadn't been able to find one anywhere on the internet. Immediately a bunch of people accused me of being a "shill" for a direct-to-consumer business that's been powered by a Yahoo storefront for the last 20 years, as though a business that's run by a guy with an AOL e-mail address is sophisticated enough to figure out Fiverr and astroturf their reputation on a phpBB forum.
Think about it for just a moment - do you really think that the Hacker News audience is large enough or full of enough tastemakers to sway an alternative search engine's market share? It isn't. If Kagi wanted to do that they'd hire TikTok influencers.
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#53I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…
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#54why do I never get deals like that when I am shopping for the homelab on eBay?
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#56I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…
The IP thing is interesting, I was trying to make this CSGO bot one time to scrape steam's prices and there are proxy services out there you rent, tried at least one and it was blocked by steam. So I wonder if people buy real IPs.
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#57I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…
While the index is currently not open source, it should be at some point. Maybe when they get out of the beta stage (?) details are yet unclear.
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#58I greatly prefer Kagi https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/ but it's very nice to see more competition in this space in general.
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But full disclosure, sometimes I'm using DuckDuckGo and it's also good enough most of the time that I occasionally forget until I go down some rabbit hole and realize that I'm using the wrong search engine.
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How much do you technologically relate to the average person on the street though? Every person I have seen (outside the tiny tech bubble) google something has just read the AI overview without skipping a beat.
That's worrisome since I've seen those be for-sure wrong a pretty high percentage of the time. [EDIT] Incidentally, are there any sites that do actual web search any more, better than Yandex? I'd rather avoid a Russian site if I can, but there are whole topics where it's impossible to find anything useful on heavily "massaged" allegedly-Web-search-but-not-really sites like Google and DDG (Bing), but I can find what I…
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#60I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
More to the point, it's a shame that we can't collectively grok (dammit, they took that from us too) concepts like "personal" and/or "curated" directories, e.g. individual and group wikis and so forth on perhaps more directed topics with lists of good links.