Vibe coding tools are helping non-tech users build prototype faster, and there's nothing wrong about that. The only thing that goes wrong are the "marketing" folks with a poisoned mindset. I've seen a lovable's tiktok clip said something like "She doesn't know she gonna sell her app for 20k" lol.
All vibe coding tools are selling a get rich quick scheme
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#52I was at a coffee shop a little while ago with some friends and a stranger was sitting near us working on his laptop. Someone from our group decided to strike up a conversation with him and the stranger started telling us about how now they have these AI tools that can have you make an app in a few hours and without knowing how to code. He was not a software person but look at what he is able to do with it. The impli…
Was he pushing the money making angle? Because from the description you gave my impression was that he was empowered to make things, and I see nothing wrong with that.
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#53This blog post is engagement farming clickbait. Not even saying he's wrong, but it is.
They don't care that they are wrong.
As is with everything that is bait/clickbait/ragebait.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I 100% agree that this is how the experience is right now. I don't necessarily think it will stay this way, though. The tools are so new, we shouldn't be so sure that the future versions won't allow non-coders to code successfully.
Isn't it a subset of "understanding".. AI as we have them currently emulates something that understands us. If you ask it to write a program, how would a non-coder know if the output of the emulated understanding is accurate enough as code, or a miss? Reminds me of the joke: int getRandom() { return 4; // chosen by a dice, guaranteed to be random }
> Reminds me of the joke
Source: https://xkcd.com/221/
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#55hard disagree
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#56One should be simply amazed that amidst the AI hype most fail to realise that if it's too good to be true, it probably is! Just waiting for this bubble to pop.
edit: typo
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#57The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Eve…
I think this is spot on and aligns with my experience.
I've seen less experienced devs crash and burn trying to commit massive amounts of vibe coded slop without consideration to: how much of it was necessary? how does it conform with our code base / style? how much does it take advantage of existing code and patterns? and so on.
I think if you are using one of these tools and experienced, it should be difficult to tell you are using one at all. The code I produce looks like stuff I would write, and I understand all it wrote, I don't want to outsource to producing tons of code that I don't even understand.
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#58The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Eve…
What you're describing is not vibe coding. I realize some people call anything with an LLM generating code "vibe coding" but it's not and I'm going to die on this hill. 1 it's not the meaning Karpathy used originally, which was for creating software through prompts WITHOUT looking at the source code 2 it's not the meaning people outside programming circles mean, either, which is identical to Karpathy's original defin…
Amen. The difference is vast when it comes to discussions like this.
If you’re talking about AI-assisted development, then an AI agent being able to do 80% of the work is a fantastic win. The developer can pick up the remaining 20% and come out massively ahead.
If you’re talking about vibe-coding, then an AI agent being able to do 80% of the work is useless. What’s a non-developer going to do with something that still has 20% of the development left to do? It’s not 80% useful, it’s 0% useful.
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#59> at first i was very hopeful i can finally 'build' now with my minimal tech skills This is the problem. If you couldn't have coded it slowly in the old world, you will have problems coding it in AI world. However if you have a lot of coding experience, you can now compress the time it would have taken you be an enormous amount. My experience is that I can now make extensive changes with very little effort, and very…
I have about 6 months of actual coding knowledge via bootcamp. But I’ve seen enough repos that I know what good practices look like. That’s about enough for me to build out fairly complex products very fast with AI (Claude Code). Claude Code often makes some fundamental mistakes that you wouldn’t be able to catch if you didn’t have any coding experience (like today, it was trying to save large images directly in the…
> But I’ve seen enough repos that I know what good practices look like.
This is the danger - I get why you think it's true, but it's not true. I've mentored many many bootcamp grads. The biggest danger with y'all is you don't know what you don't know.
Even if you are a really good bootcamp grad and you have good taste and ability, you do not have experience. Software experience is measured really in years and decades, not months.
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