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Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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That's because people don't trust AI that much... and most people don't differentiate between a really cool feature and AI so it's more confusing marketing than anything.

> That's because people don't trust AI that much ChatGPT being the number one app is a weird way for people to express they don't trust AI: https://apps.apple.com/us/charts/iphone

Number one free app. Generative AI doesn’t sell phones.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing? (Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)

Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing? (Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)

Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.

Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app?

Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.

Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app? Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?

It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Apple needs on-device AI to do chores for me with the apps I have installed. Apple has everything it needs: * Apps are already logged in, so no extra friction to grant access. * Apps mostly use Apple-developed UI frameworks, so Apple could turn them into AI-readable representations, instead of raw pixels. In the same way a browser can give the AI the accessibility DOM, Apple could give AIs an easier representation to…

> Apple needs on-device AI to do chores for me with the apps I have installed

Nevermind that—iOS just needs to reliably be able to play the song I’m telling it to without complaining “sorry, something went wrong with the connection…”

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Apple needs on-device AI to do chores for me with the apps I have installed. Apple has everything it needs: * Apps are already logged in, so no extra friction to grant access. * Apps mostly use Apple-developed UI frameworks, so Apple could turn them into AI-readable representations, instead of raw pixels. In the same way a browser can give the AI the accessibility DOM, Apple could give AIs an easier representation to…

Apple is generally anti market hype. It is a smart PR move to avoid mentioning AI after the Apple Intelligence fiasco, their researchers leaving, and the bubble sentiment at the moment.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Apple needs on-device AI to do chores for me with the apps I have installed. Apple has everything it needs: * Apps are already logged in, so no extra friction to grant access. * Apps mostly use Apple-developed UI frameworks, so Apple could turn them into AI-readable representations, instead of raw pixels. In the same way a browser can give the AI the accessibility DOM, Apple could give AIs an easier representation to…

Apple is generally anti market hype. It is a smart PR move to avoid mentioning AI after the Apple Intelligence fiasco, their researchers leaving, and the bubble sentiment at the moment.

You are missing the point. Why was Apple Intelligence a fiasco? Because they failed to understand what users like GP wanted.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app? Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?

It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.

Probably because Google marketing is the worst. Wtf is “nano-banana.” This is straight out of a Silicon Valley HBO skit.

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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I feel like they don’t want to get burned the way they did with the AVR/metaverse thing. Those headsets are worthless. Probably a lot of ptsd going on with people thinking how Jobs would have had their ass over it. I suspect they’re being very cautious with “AI”.

How did they get burned with AVP?

Re: Apple barely talked about AI at its big iPhone 17 event

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post #33

Apple needs on-device AI to do chores for me with the apps I have installed. Apple has everything it needs: * Apps are already logged in, so no extra friction to grant access. * Apps mostly use Apple-developed UI frameworks, so Apple could turn them into AI-readable representations, instead of raw pixels. In the same way a browser can give the AI the accessibility DOM, Apple could give AIs an easier representation to…

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