I'm always surprised like at this level it still seems some people absolutely want to fire there weapons; whereas I would say the more secret a mission is, the more experience you have, the more training you have and you should have understood that killing people and making noises was not the goal of the mission... It should be more teached it seems, sometimes there is operational value in not killing people.
Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
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Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#52>you woke up before dawn with your companions to go diving in the freezing cold ocean, in hopes of putting some mussels on your family's table. But suddenly, you die. A man you have never met and whose presence you did not know about has shot you with his rifle. His companions stab your lungs so that your body will sink to the bottom of the sea. Your family will likely never know what happened to you. Man, fuck these…
> Meanwhile hollywood will churn out another hundred films about how Captain America would never let something like this happen because murdering innocents is not a line America would ever cross. FWIW, Captain America's character arc throughout the MCU, at least (which is what I'd assume we mean by "Hollywood"), has largely been to realize that he can't actually trust the government and that not only is the governmen…
A lot of people bash the Marvel content for essentially having the depth of an arcade beat-em-up, but the character arcs of Cap and Iron Man alone through the movies is something to behold IMHO
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#53> The plan called for the Navy to sneak a nuclear-powered submarine, nearly two football fields long, into the waters off North Korea and then deploy a small team of SEALs in two mini-subs, each about the size of a killer whale The lengths some people willing to go just not to use the metric system
A football field is close to 100m, independently of whether people manage the balls with their feet or with their hands.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why was this flagged? Absolute worst feature of HN, I don’t know why it continues.
I don't mind it. Looking at the comments, it seems like a number of people got facts wrong (based on the articles that have been written) and emotions were high. It's just hard to have these conversations and HN isn't necessarily the place to have them.
Point taken, but sometimes 'heated' conversations happen on topics of great importance, and are sometimes the conversations from which we learn the most. (certainly not always, but sometimes).
A non-HN example: often when two people I have huge respect for as intellectuals go at it in debate over something, I can often infer that the topic is of some importance (I might not have ever heard of the topic before), and when smart people differ greatly in their views, at the very least, it's an 'interesting' topic, perhaps warranting further inquisition.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#55> The plan called for the Navy to sneak a nuclear-powered submarine, nearly two football fields long, into the waters off North Korea and then deploy a small team of SEALs in two mini-subs, each about the size of a killer whale The lengths some people willing to go just not to use the metric system
People died under troubling circumstances. Hopefully the strange quirks of the news org's writing style don't derail discussion.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#56Yesterday's HN post on the story, with some discussion, but was flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45143759 [flagged] US special forces killed North Korean civilians in botched 2019 mission (reuters.com) 68 points by hnlurker22 1 day ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 28 comments
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Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#57Yesterday's HN post on the story, with some discussion, but was flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45143759 [flagged] US special forces killed North Korean civilians in botched 2019 mission (reuters.com) 68 points by hnlurker22 1 day ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 28 comments
Why was this flagged? Absolute worst feature of HN, I don’t know why it continues.
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#58“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”
— Originally attributed to George Orwell in one form or another
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#59Yesterday's HN post on the story, with some discussion, but was flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45143759 [flagged] US special forces killed North Korean civilians in botched 2019 mission (reuters.com) 68 points by hnlurker22 1 day ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 28 comments
Why was this flagged? Absolute worst feature of HN, I don’t know why it continues.
Something can be flagged (or downvoted) because people think the topic or discussion is off-charter or incorrect, or to suppress information/discussion for ulterior reasons.
In some forums, tactics like flaming, disinformation, off-topic noise like jokes, upvoting diversions, etc. can also suppress information/discussion.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#60This post has a title that differs from the article it cites?
Looks like the title was reverted around the time of your comment.
To alleviate doubt, I originally submitted with modified title to include the word 'wiretap' (the aspect I found interesting, figured would be be similar for HN audience).
But the topic is clearly interesting for other reasons too.