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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by jmclnx »

stefan_ wrote: post #48
jgalt212 wrote: post #46

The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

So we do the tried and true solution of listening to the deranged quack?

I do not usually side with huge corporations, but in this case I hope Tylenol drags that quack into court and make him prove the report.

We all know he cannot prove anything, even if Tylenol loses, ensure they cost RFK jr lots of $ in defending himself.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by elric »

sandworm101 wrote: post #43

Coorelation does not mean causation. I remember an old study linking ultrasounds to lefthandedness. It was legit. Families with access to ultrasounds lived in countries/areas where lefthandedness was more culturally accepted, places where it was not drilled out of kids. The study was correct, but anyone touting it as causation was totally incorrect. Fyi, sharks are way more likely to attack people with australian acc…

Baader-Meinhof phenomenon at work; I commented about the ultrasound/handedness the other day.

I wonder whether the political actors in question don't understand correlation != causation, or whether they hope that enough of the populace does not understand it in order to further some goal. But what goal? Buying cheap drug shares? Seems ... silly.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by danaris »

jgalt212 wrote: post #46

The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

Do they?

Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals?

Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere?

Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, getting angry at the medical community, pharmaceutical manufacturers, or vaccine makes for saying they are not responsible is pointless and counterproductive. So far as everyone knows, it really wasn't them.

And while there may be some small subset of people "accusing suffering parents of being crazy", by and large that's also not something that's happening.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by vasco »

nilamo wrote: post #49

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Maybe I never take enough but it's also such a weak painkiller that I always prefer to just feel how it feels and sense if I'm getting better or worse. And that is without believing it's super bad for me, just doesn't make sense as a trade-off.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by adamors »

nilamo wrote: post #49

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It’s the only painkiller allowed for pregnant women, so this leads me to believe this is some other form of conspiracy to control women (since the science does’t exist, it obviously doesn’t cause autism)

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by sgc »

stefan_ wrote: post #48
jgalt212 wrote: post #46

The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

So we do the tried and true solution of listening to the deranged quack?

I almost can't even blame him he is so off the deep end. I still do of course, he should have the self-awareness to have never accepted and it is his massive ego that keeps him doing crazy, dangerous things. But whenever this mentally ill person does things that make the news, I never hear anybody blame the people who put him in that position, and leave him there despite the clearly harmful things he does every day. So shame and blame on everybody involved.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by rendall »

jgalt212 wrote: post #46

The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

Literally everyone including everyone in "the medical community" would like to know the cause of autism.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by elric »

jgalt212 wrote: post #46

The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

> accusing suffering parents of being crazy

What? Who is supposedly calling parents of autistic children "crazy"?

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

jmclnx wrote: post #51
stefan_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we do the tried and true solution of listening to the deranged quack?

I do not usually side with huge corporations, but in this case I hope Tylenol drags that quack into court and make him prove the report. We all know he cannot prove anything, even if Tylenol loses, ensure they cost RFK jr lots of $ in defending himself.

Does RFK Jr have a track recording of winning his cases or losing them?

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by sandworm101 »

adamors wrote: post #50
sandworm101 wrote: post #43

Coorelation does not mean causation. I remember an old study linking ultrasounds to lefthandedness. It was legit. Families with access to ultrasounds lived in countries/areas where lefthandedness was more culturally accepted, places where it was not drilled out of kids. The study was correct, but anyone touting it as causation was totally incorrect. Fyi, sharks are way more likely to attack people with australian acc…

You shoudln’t even be entertaining this lunacy with any response. Anything coming out of the RFK jr health department is batshit.

He was legitimately put into a position of power by the american political system. And this is an article by the BBC, probably the most respected news source on the planet. Crazy is now the norm, the leading voice. It must be confronted.
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