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John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Not only does it cycle through a ton of keys, but wind instruments like the sax require unique fingerings and embouchure changes in each key. It’s not nearly as hard on a guitar.

“Quantity has a quality of its own.” — Karl Marx, or maybe Coltrane.

After both, but with a wider range:

“More is Different”

https://www.tkm.kit.edu/downloads/TKM1_2011_more_is_differen...

Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Nothing upper-middle class people love more than worshiping dead black Americans, while treating their descendants like dangerous parasites. They were so cool, such genius! I can't wait to be the authority on them, and make more on redefining them than they ever saw in their lives, or to buy the new product that no black American makes a dime from. One day, every black American will be gone, and all that will be left…

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Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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You meant to say "Kind of Blue", I'm sure. Else: Deringers at noon. Bring your second.

I think you wrote "On The Corner" a bit weird there.

Excellent point, and with the same number of letters as in “Bitch’s Brew”, give or take some punctuation.

Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Nothing upper-middle class people love more than worshiping dead black Americans, while treating their descendants like dangerous parasites. They were so cool, such genius! I can't wait to be the authority on them, and make more on redefining them than they ever saw in their lives, or to buy the new product that no black American makes a dime from. One day, every black American will be gone, and all that will be left…

Contrived projection. Find me a jazz obsessive who "treats blacks like parasites".

Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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I am not particularly fond of jazz myself. I've logged way more plays of Incapacitants than Mr. Coltrane, but his name seems to come up every time I study harmony. These alternative systems have been a creative boon for me, regardless of the genre I'm songwriting for.

Also if you appreciate "honest racket" you may enjoy Peter Brötzmann.

Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Ah yes the best welcome for people joining a jam session: "OK, let's do Giant Steps. One, one two three..."

Hehe, that had me laughing out loud and I haven't touched a sax in two decades :)

Had me laughing, too, and I haven't touched a flute in two years :0)

Re: John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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Fascinating, well-written piece. Thanks for sharing! I plan to revisit it more closely when I free up (probably while listening to A Love Supreme -- arguably the greatest jazz album of all time).

I, unarguably, agree. My all time favorite part is "Psalm". Love the story behind it, too: They had just moved from the city to Long Island, and he said it came fully formed into his mind. He then spent days and days in solitude intensely teasing it out to perfection.

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/...

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