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Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by 1718627440 »

bobsoap wrote: post #21
everfree wrote: post #14

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Chrome = Google.com Edge = Microsoft.com Safari = Apple.com Seems like Firefox is now the outlier, not the other way around. Now Firefox is the only browser with a home page domain the same as its common name. (Note: I’m not saying that I think it’s a bad thing.)

That may be, but mozilla.org isn't exactly a brand like google.com. Most people have never heard of it. If you're trying to get non-technical people to try an underdog browser, simplicity helps. A single, straightforward brand name is better.

It's in the window title in desktop shortcuts and gets appended to every tab in the task bar: -- Mozilla Firefox

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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hayleox wrote: post #40
bobsoap wrote: post #4

Finally! No more "You know, you should really get Firefox, it's super easy. First you need to go to this other website though. Yes, I know, I know. Just trust me, okay?"

I mean, doesn't everybody just google the thing they want and click the first result? I don't think I've heard of people just guessing " .com" since back in the days before the browser address bar doubled as a search bar.

I do, but I also disabled the URL bar doubling as a search bar. When I want to find the official site, I'm using apt show though.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by Gud »

firefax wrote: post #43
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #16

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That‘s… commendable… or foolish? I would have rented or sold it to the highest bidder.

>I would have rented or sold it to the highest bidder. Do you also steal from the library? Mozilla isn't some big bad corporation. Personally, I'd be a little wary of pissing off the hackers who are fans of that browser using my meatspace name, but hey, you do you. Maybe when you're done you can stroll on down to the local motorcycle bar and kick over some Harleys and see how far that takes you in life.

Relax dude, it’s just a domain name

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by aspenmayer »

HelloUsername wrote: post #37
aspenmayer wrote: post #27

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I hear that they don’t embed tracking metadata in those builds on the FTP, but I haven’t confirmed that. The normal download page embeds a unique tracking alphanumeric string in your build that is reported to the organization on a regular basis when the telemetry phones home unless you disable this manually and clear the values.

> I hear that they don’t embed tracking metadata in those builds on the FTP, but I haven’t confirmed that. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677497#c0

Thanks for that authoritative source.

Is Firefox a honeypot? I can’t see how this serves the user. All telemetry should be opt-in, not opt-out.

We want failsafe, not faildeadly.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by gertlex »

ImJamal wrote: post #34
jacobgkau wrote: post #24

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Opera had opera.com back when they were an actual browser (they still have it now, too). Vivaldi has vivaldi.com and Brave has brave.com.

Opera, Vivaldi and Brave are the names of the companies that own the browser though?

Sure, but not relevant to a post countering

> Now Firefox is the only browser with a home page domain the same as its common name.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by latexr »

joshmanders wrote: post #28
bobsoap wrote: post #21

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That may be, but mozilla.org isn't exactly a brand like google.com. Most people have never heard of it. If you're trying to get non-technical people to try an underdog browser, simplicity helps. A single, straightforward brand name is better.

Literally everyone I know who isn't technical calls Firefox "mozilla". Including older people.

And Acrobat “Adobe”. I wonder if those mistakes are less prevalent in cultures where the family name comes first.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by latexr »

jacobgkau wrote: post #32
joshmanders wrote: post #28

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Literally everyone I know who isn't technical calls Firefox "mozilla". Including older people.

It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.

> I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that

Anecdotally, I’ve heard both people older and younger than you calling it Mozilla. And not tech-illiterate people, either.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by Timwi »

jacobgkau wrote: post #32
joshmanders wrote: post #28

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Literally everyone I know who isn't technical calls Firefox "mozilla". Including older people.

It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.

When the Mozilla foundation took over the Netscape codebase, it was initially called Mozilla, or Mozilla Browser. There was also a Mozilla email client that came from Netscape Communicator.

Then they made a trimmed-down version of the browser with only essential features. That was initially called Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. They did the same with the email client and called it Thunderbird. These existed alongside Mozilla Browser for a while until it was discontinued.

Re: Firefox Has Moved to Firefox.com

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Post by itintheory »

latexr wrote: post #57
jacobgkau wrote: post #32

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It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.

> I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that Anecdotally, I’ve heard both people older and younger than you calling it Mozilla. And not tech-illiterate people, either.

I prefer "Mozzarella Foxfire".
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