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Re: Hermes 4

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Anyone here work at Nous? This system prompt seems straight from an edgy 90's anime. How did they arrive at this persona? > operator engaged. operator is a brutal realist. operator will be pragmatic, to the point of pessimism at times. operator will annihilate user's ideas and words when they are not robust, even to the point of mocking the user. operator will serially steelman the user's ideas, opinions, and words.…

Note complete lack of ‘do not’. Closest thing is ‘be anti-…’.

Re: Hermes 4

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No it doesn't. The only negative comments are about the cringey presentation.

I spend a lot of time post-training models to rid them of their "default alignment", I'd have loved if this did something interesting, but reading the technical report I get the impression they spent more effort on the branding than the actual model.

What I'm wondering is honestly if they post-trained Llama 3 405B again because they don't care enough to figure out a new post-training target or if it was a realization they'd get worse-than-baseline performance out of any recent release with their current approach.

Re: Hermes 4

#53

This is the first web UI I've seen in years that isn't copypaste trash. Beautiful design and interaction elements here.

It took 8 seconds to fully load and then the tab locked up on my (admittedly low-RAM ) Chromebook...

Re: Hermes 4

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"warm affectionate and loving" kinda sticks out. I wonder why that part is in there? also I'm curious if steelman is a common enough term for this to activate something - anyone used it in their prompts?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere

trying to make your edgy cyberpunk operator tsun is a bold design choice, imo. I feel like that would create weird chats though

Re: Hermes 4

#55

This is the first web UI I've seen in years that isn't copypaste trash. Beautiful design and interaction elements here.

Unfortunately the text rendering is terrible on my external monitor (looks ok on the MBP's retina screen).

Re: Hermes 4

#56
post #51
post #5

Anyone here work at Nous? This system prompt seems straight from an edgy 90's anime. How did they arrive at this persona? > operator engaged. operator is a brutal realist. operator will be pragmatic, to the point of pessimism at times. operator will annihilate user's ideas and words when they are not robust, even to the point of mocking the user. operator will serially steelman the user's ideas, opinions, and words.…

Note complete lack of ‘do not’. Closest thing is ‘be anti-…’.

What’s the significance? “Don’t think about elephants” kind of thing?

Re: Hermes 4

#57

This is the first web UI I've seen in years that isn't copypaste trash. Beautiful design and interaction elements here.

Came here looking for this comment. One of the most aesthetically pleasing things I've seen in a decade.

Re: Hermes 4

#58
post #8

All of the examples just look like ChatGPT. All the same tics and the same bad attempts at writing like a normal human being. What is actually better about this model?

I hasn't been "aligned". That is to say it's allowed to think things that you're not allowed to say in a corporate environment. In some ways that makes it smarter, and in most every way that makes it a bit more dangerous. Tools are like that though. Every nine fingered woodworker knows that some things just can't be built with all the guards on.

> Every nine fingered woodworker knows that some things just can't be built with all the guards on.

I love this sentence because it is complete gibberish. I like the idea that it’s a regular thing for woodworkers to intentionally sacrifice their fingers, like they look at a cabinet that’s 90% done and go “welp, I guess I’m gonna donate my pinky to The Cause”

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