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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by conartist6 »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #29
esafak wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we see?

It's apparently this but I can't really say that I get it: https://bablr.org He seems to be saying he spent $350k making this. I guess it's some tooling for writing parsers. He has this to say about Zed: > Zed: Founded by Atom’s dev team, Zed was the rewrite that Atom always wanted to be able to do but couldn’t when Microsoft bought Github and made the executive decision to kill a product it might otherwise have had…

Haha yes I wrote that, thank you for sharing.

We're approaching the problem by drawing from browser design. We want to see an editor with a DOM API for code documents. BABLR is a parser framework meant as a direct answer to Tree-sitter.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by decentrality »

pton_xd wrote: post #30

> To make this possible, we're building DeltaDB: a new kind of version control that tracks every operation, not just commits. Let me guess: DeltaDB is free to use as long as we host your data and have free range on training AI based on your editor interactions.

Not sure what this guess is based on. Would that be a guess for git also, if mentioned by a company versus an individual?

My read was that they are pulling a Linus Torvalds with the Linux->Git move where both are innovations on their own, but work great together ( without dystopian universe instantiation )

CRDTs mentioned: https://zed.dev/blog/crdts

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

#53

Post by decentrality »

reitanuki wrote: post #49
arkits wrote: post #44

Have they fixed the big/feature where it insists on downloading entire distributions of Node.js for running it's language server functionality?

This is basically my main gripe with Zed atm — it's very keen to autodownload and execute binaries. I have a light fork that tries to nullify this, but I don't think I've managed to catch all the instances. Other than that, it's a very nice editor in my opinion.

Easy fix:

{ "server_url": "", }

I comment out that JSONC line periodically when I feel like cherry-picking updates

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by runako »

rtfeldman wrote: post #36
parentheses wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note to Zed: I prefer paid products to enshittened ones. Please please please, get paid rather than holding on too tightly to making things free forcing future enshittening.

We're working on it! :) You can pay for Zed today if you'd like - https://zed.dev/pricing - and also the editor itself is open-source under the GPLv3 license. So if at any point in the future Zed changes direction in a way you don't like, you are perpetually free to build the version you liked from source (or make a community fork and take it in a different direction).

Big fan of Zed. I want to echo a sibling comment that I don't see that as paying for Zed, I see it as paying for LLM usage. And since I already have my own LLM keys, I just use those instead.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by dymk »

danr4 wrote: post #38
mccoyb wrote: post #20

I love the spirit of Zed. From the principles to the low-level implementation details, it all screams "good taste". It's immensely interesting as an object of study (the code is great, from GPUI all the way up). Having said that, I don't think an editor should be VC backed. It's the obvious pragmatic choice to get a team together to support a thing, but I'm concerned by it.

> "I don't think an editor should be VC backed" it's a software company. they sell software.

Then sell software, not equity

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by azemetre »

pton_xd wrote: post #30

> To make this possible, we're building DeltaDB: a new kind of version control that tracks every operation, not just commits. Let me guess: DeltaDB is free to use as long as we host your data and have free range on training AI based on your editor interactions.

Definitely sounds very eerie. Luckily there are open source solutions that do just this with no AI integration:

https://github.com/atuinsh/atuin

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by segmondy »

zed is just on the hype train, obviously very talented people, they are thinking hard about LLMs but I'm not really sure where they are going, their pivot is probably going to be more interesting...
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