Pretend for a moment that capital investors do any work. Can AI replace that work?
I'm sorry Dave. I can't answer that.AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
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Re: AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It takes forever to make a beautiful diagram, but the usual flow is that you have your presentation for the base idea, and then when the questions come, you can all grab a marker and start making a mess on the boards around the room. We also have one in the dev room, which is nice for smaller topics. It's not meant to be the actual documentation, and it makes sense to me since you don't want to write the actual docum…
That just sounds like office theatre.
We have some of that, but it's not the whiteboards. The dev one gets used multiple times a day in a room with only developers. No management, no power structure around.
It's my general experience, also in prior workplaces, that sometimes a little drawing can tell a lot, and there's no quicker way to start it than to walk 3 meters and grab a marker. Same for getting attention towards a particular part of the board. On Excalidraw, it's difficult to coordinate people dynamically. On a whiteboard, people just point to the parts they're talking about while talking instinctively, so you don't get person A arguing with person B about Y while B thinks they are talking about D which is pretty close to Y as a topic.
Re: AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
#53IMHO this is going to be part of a broader trend where advancements in AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had.
> AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had If we project long term, could this mean that countries with the most capital to invest in AI and robotics (like the U.S.) could take back manufacturing dominance from countries with low wages (like China)?
China dominance in manufacturing, at least in tech, it's not based on cheap labor, but rather in skills, tooling and supply chain advantages.
Tim Cook explains it better that I could ever do:
Re: AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
#54IMHO this is going to be part of a broader trend where advancements in AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had.
> AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had If we project long term, could this mean that countries with the most capital to invest in AI and robotics (like the U.S.) could take back manufacturing dominance from countries with low wages (like China)?
> could take back manufacturing dominance from countries with low wages (like China)?
The idea that China is a low wages country should just die. It was the case 10y ago, not anymore.
Some part of China have higher average salaries than some Eastern European countries.
The chance of a robotic industry in the US moving massively jobs from China only due to a pseudo A.I revolution replacing low paid wages (without other external factors, e.g tarifs or sanctions) is close to 0.
Now if we do speak about India and the low skill IT jobs there. The story is completely different.
Re: AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
#55Pretend for a moment that capital investors do any work. Can AI replace that work?
They do a lot of work but a lot of market research can be automated too.
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#56AI is going to force the issue of having to deal with the inequity in our economic system. And my belief is that this confrontation will be violent and many people are going to die. The fundamental issue is wealth inequality. The ultimate forms of wealth redistribution are war and revolution. I personally believe we are already beyond the point where electoral politics can solve this issue and a violent resolution is…
> personally believe we are already beyond the point where electoral politics can solve this issue and a violent resolution is inevitable.
I do think more or less this too, but it could be 4 years or 40 before people get mad enough. And to be honest the tech gap between civilian violence and state sponsored violence has never been wider. OR in other words, civilians don't have reaper drones etc etc.
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#57The Indian IT sector is almost certainly going to be decimated (at least in its current form), and we haven’t really wrapped our heads around what that means for the world’s fourth-largest economy.
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#58Pretend for a moment that capital investors do any work. Can AI replace that work?
The investment bankers I know worked harder than any software developer to get where they are.
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#59The actual report (which this article doesn't link to; bad Axios): https://nanda.media.mit.edu/ai_report_2025.pdf
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Re: AI is predominantly replacing outsourced, offshore workers
#60IMHO this is going to be part of a broader trend where advancements in AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had.
> IMHO this is going to be part of a broader trend where advancements in AI and robotics nullify any comparative advantages low wage countries had. Then why hasn't it yet? In fact, some lower-wage countries such as China are on the forefront of industrial automation? I think the bottom line is that many Western countries went out of their way to make manufacturing - automated or not - very expensive and time-consumin…
Hard to honestly say if China is low wage. On one hand, their wages have risen as the work force has shrunk now for a few years and tasks are being outsourced to other countries. On the other hand, their currency is pegged meaning that the earning power of the workers should be much higher so that they can afford the things they are making and transition to a consumer driven economy.