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Reading between the lines - actually, just reading the lines - it sounds like another organisation that got infested with the kind of people who are apt to ruin organisations, and perhaps an attempt it being made to fumigate it, and they don't like that.
> "In March last year more than 180 staff wrote a letter to leadership expressing “serious concerns” about the organisation’s approach to diversity after it appointed four men to senior roles" This is part of the "identity crisis"?
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And regardless it sounds like the gender ratio is in line with STEM averages (or even above average).
> At ATI, management at the scientific leadership level referred to in the letter – people who oversee research into AI – has six women to 13 men, a split of approximately 32%-68%. The gender split among ATI’s total staff of 560 people is 53% male and 47% female.
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It's not just the HQ, the only AI researcher I know personally is an American who moved to London to work on AI with DeepMind well after the acquisition.
The registered HQ and a large research center are in London, but ownership, executive control, substantial staffing, a big fraction of the training/serving compute, and the commercialization pathway run through Alphabet's U.S. operations, so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based... See also https://gwern.net/doc/reinforcement-learning/deepmind/2019-d... "As part of a wider group reorganisation, the C…
I attribute it mostly to a cultural problem and I don't think they can fix their politics from the downward spiral they're on. It's why they have a number that rounds to zero of billion dollar software companies and why all their ambitious people do their best to get to the US.
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It's not just the HQ, the only AI researcher I know personally is an American who moved to London to work on AI with DeepMind well after the acquisition.
The registered HQ and a large research center are in London, but ownership, executive control, substantial staffing, a big fraction of the training/serving compute, and the commercialization pathway run through Alphabet's U.S. operations, so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based... See also https://gwern.net/doc/reinforcement-learning/deepmind/2019-d... "As part of a wider group reorganisation, the C…
> so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based...
These two statements literally contradict each other in both cases.
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The registered HQ and a large research center are in London, but ownership, executive control, substantial staffing, a big fraction of the training/serving compute, and the commercialization pathway run through Alphabet's U.S. operations, so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based... See also https://gwern.net/doc/reinforcement-learning/deepmind/2019-d... "As part of a wider group reorganisation, the C…
> The registered HQ and a large research center are in London ... > so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based... These two statements literally contradict each other in both cases.
Welcome to how multinational corporate entities structure their tax affairs!
You might like to start by reading
https://taxjustice.net/2024/11/06/corporate-tax-haven-index-...
although there are many others....
> “The ATI brand is well recognised internationally,” says Dame Wendy Hall, a professor of computer science at the University of Southampton and the co-chair of a 2017 government AI review. “If it ceases to be the national institute for AI and data science then we are at risk of weakening our international leadership in AI.” 'our [UK?] international leadership in AI' -> citation needed?
DeepMind was founded in London, UK and still headquartered there, and is one of the leaders in the field.. Notable well-known things from DeepMind are AlphaGo (the first time a computer beat a world champion at Go), AlphaFold (resulting in a Nobel prize). Gemini (LLM, a variant of which is used in Google search results) and Gemma (open-weights LLMs). They were acquired by Google, so you could argue they aren't centre…
They've been acquired. There's nothing left to argue.
I was reading earlier today about how Kuka AG, the German mechanical engineering company, was sold to a Chinese investor in 2016. A fascinating story:
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> The registered HQ and a large research center are in London ... > so the work is, in practical and legal senses, U.S.-based... These two statements literally contradict each other in both cases.
> These two statements literally contradict each other in both cases Welcome to how multinational corporate entities structure their tax affairs! You might like to start by reading https://taxjustice.net/2024/11/06/corporate-tax-haven-index-... although there are many others....
I don't agree with the statement that you're challenging but Google DeepMind's operations in London make it (still) an important centre for AI research and is probably why the UK is ranked third on many international AI country rankings.
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Given Alan Turing's work in the defense field, I do not think it grotesque to put his name on defence work.
If he had done that work after they castrated him and drove him to suicide, sure, but that wasn't the order of events.
Reading between the lines - actually, just reading the lines - it sounds like another organisation that got infested with the kind of people who are apt to ruin organisations, and perhaps an attempt it being made to fumigate it, and they don't like that.
Without knowing any details, I'm guessing what's happened is the inevitable result that befalls organizations as predicted by Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy: Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bure…
Funny, we have similar views about Google search[1], and those days were much better
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44940485
[1] https://www.jerrypournelle.com/archives2/archives2mail/mail4...
Reading between the lines - actually, just reading the lines - it sounds like another organisation that got infested with the kind of people who are apt to ruin organisations, and perhaps an attempt it being made to fumigate it, and they don't like that.
I don't think you need to read between the lines. The lede is buried, but explicit: > This is part of an overhaul dubbed Turing 2.0 under which the institute will focus on three key areas: health, the environment, and defence and security. They're trying to make the organization into a defense subcontractor (with a few side-projects for image maintenance), and purging anyone who isn't interested in that mission.