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Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.

They do accept money from UK citizens, you can buy a 4chan pass to skip the captcha. I've done so in the past.

What are they gonna do, stop UK citizens from spending money how they want? Or will they try to invade the US again? Lol

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

#52

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Okay, but that's still not 4chan's problem. A company with no nexus in the UK has no reason to care about UK law in any way, shape, or form.

According to their Advertise page, UK is 7% of their audience. Their reaction looks like they care.

They might care about lost advertising dollars, but the UK has no jurisdiction and judgements contrary to the constitution will not be recognized by US courts.

Their reaction puts on record the constitutional/legal barriers, preserves strategic optionality, and possibly preempts escalation that could still cause real headaches. It's strategic, not a sign that they actually think the UK has a case.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

#53

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They do accept money from UK citizens, you can buy a 4chan pass to skip the captcha. I've done so in the past.

What are they gonna do, stop UK citizens from spending money how they want? Or will they try to invade the US again? Lol

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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

#54

Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.

They do accept money from UK citizens, you can buy a 4chan pass to skip the captcha. I've done so in the past.

I don't think crypto housed outside the UK counts, but I could be wrong. But it's not like there is a UK arm of the company they can even sue.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #25

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ISPs blocking it will mostly work, I think. Most people can't be bothered with a VPN so if 4chan is inaccessible they'll just read/watch something else instead.

I think you can't post on 4chan if you're using a VPN.

you can if you buy a 4chan pass with crypto

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

#56
post #22

Disgusting. If I access 4chan only through tor, will I be safe from these tirants?

It's been a long time since I've had anything to do with 4chan but I believe Tor was blocked because of how often it was used to post illegal (in the US) content.

It works for reading at least, no idea about posting.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

#57
post #6

USA is all about free speech because the big tech companies are in USA and behind closed doors do what the US Government tells them. If Meta/Google/Twitter/TikTok were foreign companies they'd likely be banned or regulated to be allowed to operate here.

The big tech companies are currently lobbying the US government to bring identity verification laws to us at a federal level. They stand to grow even more rich and even more powerful by being the gatekeepers of identity. Imagine if you could only log in to Hacker News by using your Google account.

It will kill whatever is left of small independent communities on the internet, and it's a disaster for free speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAd-OOrdyMw

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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It’s funny. Their “Advertise” page explicitly mentions UK on demographics section (7% of users). Both Advertise and Rules pages explicitly mention local along with US laws. It looks like they actually do business in UK serving ads to UK users and thus should be subject to local laws themselves.

Serving ads to UK users does not grant the UK enforcement jurisdiction over 4chan. They have no presence, assets, or agents in the UK. If the UK still attempts to issue a judgement contrary to the first amendment, the constitution in general, and/or US law, it will not be recognized by US courts. In short, the UK can kick rocks.

the UK could block access to 4chan, or block the ability for 4chan to sell ads in the UK

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #22

Disgusting. If I access 4chan only through tor, will I be safe from these tirants?

You'll just stick out like a sore thumb

Could you expand? How does using tor makes you stick out like a sore thumb?

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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post #16

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Pretty sure the USA position has to do with the us constitution. Just saying

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Could you give some examples which refer to the activities you accuse him of? Examples of actual violations of the Constitution of the United States, that is, not just examples of him deciding things you happen to disagree with.
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