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Passion over Profits
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#52Until you've worked at a job where you're genuinely excited to get up every morning and hack, it's very hard to empathize with this sentiment. Doubly so because employers compelling enough to make employees passionate about their jobs often exploit this and have extremely substandard working conditions (exhibit A: academia). Despite that, once you've been genuinely passionate about a job, it's very hard to see the wo…
> get up every morning and hack, it's very hard to empathize with this sentiment Even if you have experienced the joy, it might not always be rewarded & the disillusionment burnout is always a risk. The most bitter folks I've worked with are the ones who started with a lot of passion, but got turned around. Not to mention that this Passion comes in many flavours. I would not put a label on my experience, but "autisti…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Empathize with what? Many people have experience with having free time and thus know what it’s like to do things that they like doing. Replace all of this job-passion with the fantasy of winning enough millions in the lottery to retire and yeah, there you go. People already fantasize about that. But the above doesn’t involve making a profit for an employer. I don’t know if that was supposed to be part of the empathiz…
>Empathize with what? Empathize with someone having the same degree of passion towards what they do at work and what they do outside of work. >Replace all of this job-passion with the fantasy of winning enough millions in the lottery to retire and yeah, there you go. People already fantasize about that. This is the exact opposite sentiment. People desire endless amount of free time (e.g. retirement) specifically beca…
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#54While I understand the sentiment, its often not that black and white. I was in a similar situation a few years ago, with one company doing something novel and "better for humanity" v/s just another saas that paid more. While I was leaning towards the former, what really bothered me was 1) their equity structure was quite pitiful, lower than industry standard and 2) They weren't flexible with remote work. Now, I compl…
"I am very mindful of who gets the "benefits of my passion" That's a very important consideration.
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#55Making more money allows you to donate more to organizations that hire full time staff to achieve your broader goals for the world. Trying to do that with your own work has inherent maximum scaling limits. Earning money that you can then donate to those causes does not. More money means more options, more wiggle room. Also, to me personally, the choice between hybrid and full remote isn’t even a choice.
I'm not sure I totally agree. Personal profit maximization only works to a point - for example, if you get too old, sick or the system rejects you early and curtails or limits your ability to make money. I don't disagree that money gives you options, but, far too many people wait until they have enough money to give back. If you give back while you are working (e.g. balancing working for profit vs working for nonprof…
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If you have a passion for making profit you will never have to choose between the two." That's why I often envy finance people, business people or people whose only interested in a company is to move up. Their passion aligns with profit. I personally care mostly about technology and not at all about business. So to also benefit from my work I also have to think about business which I don't enjoy.
You should consider the compiler business. Little money, much joy!
Good idea!
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know and believe that it is possible for a slave to be happy because she is a slave.
Yes, that's a perfect example of what someone who didn't believe that work can be gratifying would say.
My statement directly contradicts “someone who [don’t] believe that work can be gratifying”.
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#58Making more money allows you to donate more to organizations that hire full time staff to achieve your broader goals for the world. Trying to do that with your own work has inherent maximum scaling limits. Earning money that you can then donate to those causes does not. More money means more options, more wiggle room. Also, to me personally, the choice between hybrid and full remote isn’t even a choice.
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#59Until you've worked at a job where you're genuinely excited to get up every morning and hack, it's very hard to empathize with this sentiment. Doubly so because employers compelling enough to make employees passionate about their jobs often exploit this and have extremely substandard working conditions (exhibit A: academia). Despite that, once you've been genuinely passionate about a job, it's very hard to see the wo…
> get up every morning and hack, it's very hard to empathize with this sentiment Even if you have experienced the joy, it might not always be rewarded & the disillusionment burnout is always a risk. The most bitter folks I've worked with are the ones who started with a lot of passion, but got turned around. Not to mention that this Passion comes in many flavours. I would not put a label on my experience, but "autisti…
An interesting fact I learned: the original definition of "Passion" is the intimate suffering of Christ on the cross. It brings new meaning to corporations wanting Passion from their employees.
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#60Until you've worked at a job where you're genuinely excited to get up every morning and hack, it's very hard to empathize with this sentiment. Doubly so because employers compelling enough to make employees passionate about their jobs often exploit this and have extremely substandard working conditions (exhibit A: academia). Despite that, once you've been genuinely passionate about a job, it's very hard to see the wo…
I’m not necessarily disagreeing with your broader sentiment, but before Google I can’t think of many employers that provide the kind of open-ended projects and fringe benefits (Olympic-class gyms, rec centers, libraries, intellectually-enriched social environments, access to world-class research/engineering/media facilities, access to LexisNexis, etc.) that one gets working at a research university.