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Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#51

I've said this before, but the only thing that will convince me that these companies are actually laying people off due to AI will be when they start replacing their leadership staff with it. Until that happens--IMO it's just an excuse to reduce the overhired workforce without tanking their stock.

They are firing leadership.

There's a ton of middle managers and high-ranking roles whose jobs are to basically supervise other people.

If the people go, they do too.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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Interesting that the author doesn't mention a reduction in working hours as a solution because I see that as THE solution. Federally mandate an 18 hour work week and job demand will soar. It's just as fanciful a thought as his other suggestions given how little power we have over the federal government to exercise our will.

That change and everything else being equal means much less pay for workers. It is no golden bullet

It’s a US problem, but I think most people wouldn’t take a 50% cut in pay and a loss of health insurance (since they aren’t full time).

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#53

It might be informative to compare this with what happened when retailers introduced automated checkout machines. It seems that the net effect on staff sizes was not that dramatic. These stores need more anti-theft security people and some oversight. Not to mention the people they need for technical support. I wonder if there will develop a new category of skills for checking that AI produced code is correct, effecti…

My first real job in software was QA/Test (90s) and it seems my last job will be too.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#55
I can see the author's point but im failing to link it to ai. The ai im using now is a good as a productivity booster for otherwise already well defined problem-- and decently good engineers.

I dont think the layoffs are due to that. It is affecting entry jobs rather badly, but that (anecdotely) constitutes minority.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

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post #3

Interesting that the author doesn't mention a reduction in working hours as a solution because I see that as THE solution. Federally mandate an 18 hour work week and job demand will soar. It's just as fanciful a thought as his other suggestions given how little power we have over the federal government to exercise our will.

Our entire economic system is built around ensuring we have scarcities of necessities (housing, mostly) so workers need to outcompete their peers to have access to said necessities. This results in reduced work weeks being a non starters as those who would like to avail of them are outbid by those who forego them.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#57
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Solid summary I think, but reading “what the country does if some significant percentage of our 100 million knowledge workers gets laid off because of AI” confused me deeply. Does verifying the difference between whole milk and oat milk qualify the barista as a knowledge worker?

The quote links to a BIS report which establishes that, yes, the 170-million strong US workforce really does have 100 million (actual) knowledge workers and baristas don't count. Service workers are outnumbered by computer jobs.

They do run computers at Starbuck’s. Can’t imagine a definition that includes 1B people globally, 1/10th in the US.

BLS link 404’d for me:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-5/pdf/what-is-the-gig-ec...

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#58
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t bet on this

Just become a black hat then. It will be easy to find problems in everything but the very top percent of AI generated software.

I had Claude Code do some of the challenges at defcon, it was doing surprisingly well.

(I did make sure the challenges didn’t ban AI).

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investors weren't bailed out following the pop of the dot com bubble. I don't think that AI investors will be bailed out afterward if this is another bubble.

Dot com pop caused significant repercussions for many people. I don’t think GP implied the AI bubble would get bailed out, just that if it pops, life gets unpleasant for lots of folks.

I think that the parent comment was edited after I replied. I wouldn't have said anything except for the original mention of an investor bailout.

Re: I'm worried it might get bad

#60
I have no idea where this will go but I'm really not optimistic about the future of software development work. AI is already scarily good today. Sure I can still add value as a senior right now.. but there's no reason why that has to continue to be the case
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