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Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to understand why a coffee shop should be taking sides on geopolitical conflicts.

I agree. No idea why Starbucks, McDonalds, Zara etc. came out shouting support for Israel out of nowhere. Requiring a boycott from sane people.

> Requiring a boycott from sane people.

It sounds like you don't agree.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#53
post #20

> Dalla worked at Philz for nine years until last year, when he was laid off. He said that many longtime employees left around the same time as the company’s culture shifted to a more profit-driven, corporate culture. > On his way out, he said that CEO Sadarangani urged him against exercising his stock options — options that will now, barring changes to the current deal, be worth nothing. “I always assumed they would…

There is a bunch of shady and unfair behavior by the acquirers here, but yeah, that line doesn’t make sense. If the options are worthless, then exercising them would have been a waste of money - the CEO was helping this person out!

I think this article was written by someone with lots of outrage and little actual understanding.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#54
post #23

Wasn't Philz the only Pro-Palestine coffee chain. That's too bad.

In my experience around the SF bay area the vast majority of local or independent coffee shops have a Palestinian flag or stand with Palestine poster right on the front glass.

While I think that your choice in coffee shop has little to no effect on the actual Palestinian country or people, you can always try going local instead of supporting these multi million dollar chains.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#55
post #23

Wasn't Philz the only Pro-Palestine coffee chain. That's too bad.

Apparently not all that pro-Palestine, if Wikipedia is to be believed: > At the end of 2023, five employees were sent home from the Gilman Street location for wearing Pro-Palestine pins. Despite asking for a written statement from management about why the pins were not allowed, the employees never received any information from management. The employees were sent home and the entire staff unionized.

i assume this was AFTER this takeover?

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#56
post #54
post #23

Wasn't Philz the only Pro-Palestine coffee chain. That's too bad.

In my experience around the SF bay area the vast majority of local or independent coffee shops have a Palestinian flag or stand with Palestine poster right on the front glass. While I think that your choice in coffee shop has little to no effect on the actual Palestinian country or people, you can always try going local instead of supporting these multi million dollar chains.

indeed. I love the late night Yemeni shops that have popped up.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In a liquidation, common stockholders receive whatever assets remain after creditors, bondholders, and preferred stockholders are paid." Coupled with what sounds like an already bad financial state of the company... I'm not claiming no foul play, but it looks like there is a reasonable avenue for what is happening.

Investing in shares is, like most things in life, a task that requires some skill and understanding. Hence the concept of accredited investors. When you're swimming with the big boys, it pays to know the rules of the game. Unfortunately employees getting or buying shares from their employer have little to no investment skills. Yes, it's possible for these shares to be worth something, but if the company fails, they'r…

The concept of accredited investors is nothing of the sort. It's an arbitrary income / net worth threshold.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#58

Is there any good reason why preferred stock exists? It just seems like another tool to screw people over in favor of investors.

The big answer is "no." I mean, look at Meta. The stock you can actually buy through your broker is not actually a stock that can control the company, so in a very real sense it's not a "share" in Meta. Zuck controls nearly all the "preferred" shares that have supervoting privileges, so he can operate it as though it's essentially a private firm. The board, which in a conventional public company could exercise contro…

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Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In a liquidation, common stockholders receive whatever assets remain after creditors, bondholders, and preferred stockholders are paid." Coupled with what sounds like an already bad financial state of the company... I'm not claiming no foul play, but it looks like there is a reasonable avenue for what is happening.

The article implies that it's not a liquidation or bankruptcy, though, just a sale. I don't know how you can buy a company without buying its stock from the shareholders, given that they are the owners of the company, but there must be some special circumstance that's not mentioned in the article.

The article flat out states that they ran out of money. That's the special circumstance. Basically this was a fire sale.

Re: Philz Coffee close to closing deal to sell to private equity firm for $145M

#60
post #49

We have many more good locally owned coffee shops today.

It's only a matter of time until those locally owned coffee shops become popular, expand, over-expand, then get acquired.

Followed by regression towards the mean in quality, leading to under performance and giving way to a new crop of locally owned competition.
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