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Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by tiltowait »

bulginess2173 wrote: post #42
Fraterkes wrote: post #5

Irrespective of how good Claude code actually is (I haven’t used it, but I think this article makes a really cogent case), here’s something that bothers me: I’m very junior, I have a big slow ugly codebase of gdscript (basically python) that I’m going to convert to C# to both clean it up and speed it up. This is for a personal project, I haven’t written a ton of C# or done this amount of refactoring before, so this c…

Before AI, there was copy paste. People who copied code from Stackoverflow without understanding it learned nothing, and I saw it up close many times. I don't see a problem with you asking for advice or concepts. But if you have it write everything for you, you definitely won't learn That being said, you have to protect your time as a developer. There are a million things to learn, and if making games is your goal as…

The difference now is that LLMs propose to provide copy+paste for everything, and for your exact scenario. At least with Stack Overflow, you usually had to adapt the answers to your specific scenario, and there often weren’t answers for more esoteric things.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by azuanrb »

acedTrex wrote: post #48

I try to use claude code a lot, I keep getting very frustrated with how slow it is and how it always does things wrong. It does not feel like its saving my any mental energy on most tasks. I do gravitate towards it for some things. But then I am sometimes burned on doing that and its not pleasent. For example, last week i decided to play with nushell, i have a somewhat simple .zshrc so i just gave it to claude and as…

Have you tried context7 MCP? For things that are not mainstream (like Javascript, Typescript popularity), LLM might struggle. I usually have better result with using something like context7 where it can pull up more relevant, up to date examples.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by esafak »

Coding agents are empowering, but it is not well appreciated that they are setting a new baseline. It will soon not be considered impressive to do all the things that the author did, but expected. And you will not work less but the same hours -- or more, if you don't use agents.

Despite this, I think agents are a very welcome new weapon.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by arevno »

jeswin wrote: post #19

Claude Code is ahead of anything else, in a very noticeable way. (I've been writing my own cli tooling for AI codegen from 2023 - and in that journey I've tried most of the options out there. It has been a big part of my work - so that's how I know.) I agree with many things that the author is doing: 1. Monorepos can save time 2. Start with a good spec. Spend enough time on the spec. You can get AI to write most of t…

> 1. Monorepos can save time

Yes they can save you some time, but at the cost of Claude's time and lots of tokens making tool calls attempting to find what it needs to find. Aider is much nicer, from the standpoint that you can add the files you need it to know about, and send it off to do its thing.

I still don't understand why Claude is more popular than Aider, which is by nearly every measure a better tool, and can use whatever LLM is more appropriate for the task at hand.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by Applejinx »

delduca wrote: post #16

My opinion on Claude as ChatGPT user. It feels like ChatGPT on cocaine, I mean, I asked for a small change and it came with 5 solutions changing all my codebase.

Is this the one that goes 'Oh no, I accidentally your whole codebase, I suck, I accept my punishment and you should never trust me again' or is that a different one?

I seem to remember the 'oh no I suck' one comes out of Microsoft's programmer world? It seems like that must be a tough environment for coders if such feelings run so close to the surface that the LLMs default to it.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by lukaslalinsky »

I have about two weeks of using Claude Code and to be honest, as a vibe coding skeptic, I was amazed. It has a learning curve. You need to learn how to give it proper context, how to chunk up the work, etc. And you need to know how to program, obviously. Asking it to do something you don't know how to do, that's just asking for a disaster. I have more than 25 years of experience, so I'm confident with anything Claude Code will try to do and can review it, or stop and redirect it. About 10-15 years ago, I was dreaming about some kind of neural interface, where I could program without writing any code. And I realized that with Claude Code, it's kind of here.

A couple of times I hit the daily limits and decided to try Gemini CLI with the 2.5 pro model as a replacement. That's not even comparable to Claude Code. The frustration with Gemini is just not worth it.

I couldn't imagine paying >100$/month for a dev tool in the past, but I'm seriously considering upgrading to the Max plans.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by KronisLV »

arevno wrote: post #55
jeswin wrote: post #19

Claude Code is ahead of anything else, in a very noticeable way. (I've been writing my own cli tooling for AI codegen from 2023 - and in that journey I've tried most of the options out there. It has been a big part of my work - so that's how I know.) I agree with many things that the author is doing: 1. Monorepos can save time 2. Start with a good spec. Spend enough time on the spec. You can get AI to write most of t…

> 1. Monorepos can save time Yes they can save you some time, but at the cost of Claude's time and lots of tokens making tool calls attempting to find what it needs to find. Aider is much nicer, from the standpoint that you can add the files you need it to know about, and send it off to do its thing. I still don't understand why Claude is more popular than Aider, which is by nearly every measure a better tool, and ca…

> Aider is much nicer, from the standpoint that you can add the files you need it to know about, and send it off to do its thing.

As a user, I don't want to sit there specifying about 15-30 files, then realize that I've missed some and that it ruins everything. I want to just point the tool at the codebase and tell it: "Go do X. Look at the current implementation and patterns, as well as the tests, alongside the docs. Update everything as needed along the way, here's how you run the tests..."

Indexing the whole codebase into Qdrant might also help a little.

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by queenkjuul »

Fraterkes wrote: post #5

Irrespective of how good Claude code actually is (I haven’t used it, but I think this article makes a really cogent case), here’s something that bothers me: I’m very junior, I have a big slow ugly codebase of gdscript (basically python) that I’m going to convert to C# to both clean it up and speed it up. This is for a personal project, I haven’t written a ton of C# or done this amount of refactoring before, so this c…

Based on my usage of Claude Code, i would not trust it with anything so major.

My problem with it is that it produces _good looking_ code that, at a glance, looks 'correct', and occasionally even works. But then i look at it closely, and it's actually bad code, or has written unnecessary additional code that isn't doing anything, or has broken some other section of the app, etc.

So if you don't know enough C# to tell whether the C# it's spitting out is good or not, you're going to have a bad time

Re: 6 weeks of Claude Code

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Post by MarkMarine »

lukaslalinsky wrote: post #57

I have about two weeks of using Claude Code and to be honest, as a vibe coding skeptic, I was amazed. It has a learning curve. You need to learn how to give it proper context, how to chunk up the work, etc. And you need to know how to program, obviously. Asking it to do something you don't know how to do, that's just asking for a disaster. I have more than 25 years of experience, so I'm confident with anything Claude…

Claude code is great until it isn’t. You’re going to get to a point where you need to modify something or add something… a small feature that would have been easy if you wrote everything, and now it’s impossible because the architecture is just a mishmash of vibe coded stuff you don’t understand.
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