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It'll be a bit less cold in northern norway with this thing - accelerating ice cap melt and sea level rise. Doomsday cult.
All of modern life does that. AI could also bring some solutions instead of just perpetuating problems. And on a cost per intelligence token basis it's obscenely cheap anyway.
North Norwegians will finally experience higher electricity prices like us in the south experience since a few years.
On the plus side, a ton of electricity generation capacity is being built for AI datacenters. If this is a bubble and it pops, electricity prices are going to fall faster than you've ever seen before.
About LLMs: Maybe there won't be much training going around as model we might starting to hit diminishing returns with the current model architectures/approaches, but I believe inference is here to stay. Scaffolding code, trivial functions, ... are things that LLMs excel at doing and once you get used to offload those to the LLM it is really hard to get back to doing it manually.
About Image/Video generations: Here I believe there is even more to explore and I consider this separate from LLMs in the context of AI winters/bubbles. Especially regarding the video generation part.
I am not in the field, but I believe the appeal of being able to create movies without needing xM$ for actors' salaries is huge. And if you can even replace the VFX also with Video Generation then it is a 3 birds with one stone scenario (You pay for AI compute and you replace actors, VFX specialists, and compute costs for render farms).
So, I believe that there is not a scenario in which electricity prices plummet as you describe. Maybe locally around datacenters that were primarily built for LLMs training, but not globally.
I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?
North Norwegians will finally experience higher electricity prices like us in the south experience since a few years.
On the plus side, a ton of electricity generation capacity is being built for AI datacenters. If this is a bubble and it pops, electricity prices are going to fall faster than you've ever seen before.
In the past few decades, data centers have been placed with latency in mind - ie. Typically you don't want to be more than 1000 miles from users. However, in the world of AI, latency is already 1 second plus, so the economics change - you do better to build where there is cheap electricity and free cooling. I forsee Iceland as a good place to invest.
I do not understand why they chose Norway. I would choose a country where it is easy to build up a new power plant quickly with solar and wind, close to the site of the data center. Maybe they just have too much electricity up there that is not needed by the population or existing industry?
”While in Norway, OpenAI will also engage with government officials to explore opportunities for collaboration, including boosting AI adoption and helping to deliver on Norway’s sovereign AI goals for the benefit of its people.” Aka, Snowden thought us nothing. Norwegians beware of ChatGPT used as a weapon to move oil money from the people to the ”future of business ”.
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That was my first thought as well. Sounds like a cool name for a black site.
Huh. I guess I'm old now, but my first thought was obviously the interstellar transportation device with a big honkin' rotary dial to select your destination. ᐰ
I assume many who work at OpenAI have seen Pantheon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon_(TV_series)
I assume people at OpenAI take inspiration from dystopian SciFi (like 'Her')
And also, it's no longer science fiction; there's people having relationships with chatbots which can easily be made to do voice transcription / synthesis, and r/characterai melts down whenever they have an outage.