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Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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The Silicon Valley playbook for the last few decades has just been to acquire monopolies and then exploit them. That’s illegal of course but we stopped enforcing those laws somewhere in the early 2000s so here we are.

And this is the continued path to "enshittification" we're on through the continued growth forever. Companies aren't buying products, they're buying customers. I worked for PAN back in the days where the sentiment, directly from Nir Zuk (founder), was: innovators dilemma. There's a relatively recent article [0] on the early days that does a nice job of laying out how that was a core tenant of how PAN operated. At the…

In-N-Out has a huge footprint in DFW btw. I agree with you on their commitment to quality but as I understand it their growth is slow because they don't take outside investment or loans and they need enough capital to open a regional footprint of stores because they do their own distribution.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

I like this article about the acquisition (disclosure, I know the author). https://strategyofsecurity.com/p/the-case-for-and-against-pa... From the article: > If Palo Alto Networks was going to do identity, they had to do it big. > Commercially, there was no way they were going to build a successful identity business if they had just picked up a bunch of small companies and tried to put them together. They needed to…

Gotta be honest, after using their products extensively compared to other offerings I don’t know if stitching together cloud companies “worked”.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

PANW's current strategy is "platformization" - to be a one-stop shop for anything cybersecurity. The CYBR acquisition fills large product holes in the current PANW portfolio, with little overlap. The $25B price doesn't reflect a multiple on $1B, exactly. It represents potential sales of the CYBR product portfolio to current PANW customers, plus potential sales of the PANW portfolio to CYBR customers, at a multiple of…

Agree strongly that historical integrations were great. But cortex platformization of all the things has not been well received. But PANW is doubling down on it.

It's also curious because their firewall platform seems/feels totally separate from the rest of cortex still.

I will say, they do have a ton of coverage, more so than any other single vendor I can think of.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Let a thousand shitty obstacles to getting work done bloom.

It's the end result of outsourcing and "zero trust".

No one really trusts the Indian outsourcer with their internal systems. But they sure are cheaper, so the risks get mitigated by micromanaging and recording access to everything.

This then spreads to all employees, even those with skin in the game, and then nobody is productive any more. Not just the contractors.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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> 5. Be recognized by international organizations Good luck with that. No one has been able to do it for decades on unclaimed land like Sealand or Liberland. And you want to essentially annex another country's territory by force and be recognized? That's pure fantasy.

It happens every decade: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/newest-co...

That's not an argument made in good faith. You call the collapse of the USSR into Russia a "new country"? How many of these so called "new" countries are just single billionaires annexing some island they bought and being recognized by international institutions? I'll tell you how many: exactly zero. Total fantasy.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Which country? (Not necessarily doubting you, just curious.)

1. Go shopping https://www.privateislandsonline.com 2. Use the remaining billions to purchase a military force 3. Declare yourself sovereign 4. Export your goods and services at reasonable prices. 5. Be recognized by international organizations 6. You're literally a country for less than $24B

Seems like more of a money pit than an investment

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Both are Israel based companies. It didn’t buy Okta as it is not Israel based company which is a better bet than this given Okta is really beaten down stock. Why did they realize now when stocks are at all time high. They should have honestly bought it a year back. CyberArk real price is around $250 and palo is buying for $450. The worst price one could buy.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

Sure, they know they can 2x to 5x the revenue of Cyberark with integration to their clients/offerings, maybe more. And build a stronger moat at the same time.

It’s not their job to maximise cyberArk shareholders value.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Which country? (Not necessarily doubting you, just curious.)

1. Go shopping https://www.privateislandsonline.com 2. Use the remaining billions to purchase a military force 3. Declare yourself sovereign 4. Export your goods and services at reasonable prices. 5. Be recognized by international organizations 6. You're literally a country for less than $24B

the challenge with declaring sovereignty is international g8 recognition

Source: got to step 4

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