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Samsung Removes Bootloader Unlocking with One UI 8

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Re: Samsung Removes Bootloader Unlocking with One UI 8

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Post by g-b-r »

rickdeckard wrote: post #24
altairprime wrote: post #10

Given the timing, it’s likely related to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705240

Unlikely, bootloader unlock is a controlled process and state of the OS for many years now. The procedure explicitly hands over the responsibility of OS-integrity to the end-user, it's not Samsung's responsibility after that and the user needs to confirm that. It's much more likely that the cost/benefit profile to develop/maintain/support that feature and its related unlock-process is simply not sufficient, all while…

What's the cost to develop/maintain/support the feature? It's a simple switch, and since it's probably in AOSP there's cost in removing it, not in leaving it there

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Post by Zak »

I have to wonder what Samsung's motivation is here. Of course they probably have some bloatware they profit from, but someone who plans to unlock the bootloader just won't buy their device now. Samsung only benefits if they lose money on device sales (do they?) and make it up on "services".

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Post by zxcvgm »

Xiaomi apparently have also stopped unlocking their bootloaders, so the "workaround" was to go to an official store and ask them perform a downgrade, and before the staff can relock the bootloader, grab the phone and run:

https://x.com/kobe_koto/status/1949154478298456531

Absolutely hilarious.

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Post by worldsavior »

Zak wrote: post #53

I have to wonder what Samsung's motivation is here. Of course they probably have some bloatware they profit from, but someone who plans to unlock the bootloader just won't buy their device now. Samsung only benefits if they lose money on device sales (do they?) and make it up on "services".

How many people are there that unlock their bootloader?

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Post by kotaKat »

Zak wrote: post #53

I have to wonder what Samsung's motivation is here. Of course they probably have some bloatware they profit from, but someone who plans to unlock the bootloader just won't buy their device now. Samsung only benefits if they lose money on device sales (do they?) and make it up on "services".

I’ve got five bucks on this being a new requirement from Google to Tier 1 OEMs to eliminate bootloader locking.

Re: Samsung Removes Bootloader Unlocking with One UI 8

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trollbridge wrote: post #40
jemmyw wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a Samsung dryer and when it had a fault with the door sensor they got it fixed pretty quickly. I had better service from them than Bosch or Miele - I replaced a Bosch dryer when I was totally fed up of trying to organise Bosch to fix it and being told it was at least a 6 week wait - Samsung half the price, and surprised us that it is a better dryer (faster, easier to use etc). I don't love their phones, thou…

It’s amazing how nothing goes wrong with my 20+ year old Maytags, Whirlpools, or Estates by Whirlpool (their budget subbrand). No logic board failures, drain pump failures. Acquired from yard sales and then subject to duty cycles of 5-10 loads a day. Somewhat relevant, I have 3 relatives/colleagues still sporting iPhone 8’s/8 Pluses. The only issue is that some newer apps are slow. Told them to grab iPhone SE 3rd gen…

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Post by Zak »

kotaKat wrote: post #56
Zak wrote: post #53

I have to wonder what Samsung's motivation is here. Of course they probably have some bloatware they profit from, but someone who plans to unlock the bootloader just won't buy their device now. Samsung only benefits if they lose money on device sales (do they?) and make it up on "services".

I’ve got five bucks on this being a new requirement from Google to Tier 1 OEMs to eliminate bootloader locking.

Google's own Pixel devices have easy unlocking, so this would surprise me. Google's strategy to keep devices users actually control from being too mainstream is remote attestation.

Re: Samsung Removes Bootloader Unlocking with One UI 8

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Post by damascus_kei »

jemmyw wrote: post #21
crinkly wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Everyone I know who bought a Samsung anything (TV/Phone/Washer/Dryer) last time said it's their last Samsung product. Samsung sure know how to piss off customers.

I've got a Samsung dryer and when it had a fault with the door sensor they got it fixed pretty quickly. I had better service from them than Bosch or Miele - I replaced a Bosch dryer when I was totally fed up of trying to organise Bosch to fix it and being told it was at least a 6 week wait - Samsung half the price, and surprised us that it is a better dryer (faster, easier to use etc). I don't love their phones, thou…

This is also anecdotal; but I heard it from someone who works in Home Appliance repair, but Samsung has been getting their act together in the last couple of years because they know their reputation has been horrible. Making their appliances more reliable and easier to repair. They worked with the home assistant recently to get their appliances (smart things) to be able to properly with it.
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