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Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by underlipton »

bognition wrote: post #3

Back in school I was often told the lead pipes in Roman aqueducts likely played a key role in the fall of Roman. We know lead is a poison with negative long term effects on cognition. The aqueducts were also responsible for Romes ability to proliferate and grow. Lead was both a blessing and a curse. I wonder what future generations will say about our highly enriched and processed diets. Calories have never been cheap…

It should be noted that juice is a highly-processed food. It concentrates the sugar, vitamin, mineral, and water content of a plant while removing the fiber.

As to your last question, part of it may be rethinking the profit motive in food production. Food waste to keep prices high is a huge issue.

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Post by Etheryte »

bognition wrote: post #3

Back in school I was often told the lead pipes in Roman aqueducts likely played a key role in the fall of Roman. We know lead is a poison with negative long term effects on cognition. The aqueducts were also responsible for Romes ability to proliferate and grow. Lead was both a blessing and a curse. I wonder what future generations will say about our highly enriched and processed diets. Calories have never been cheap…

The lead pipe thing is one of the best known urban legends that's both completely false and also constantly making rounds on the internet.

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Post by tdesilva »

dinfinity wrote: post #35
ulf-77723 wrote: post #32

Some time ago I read the book Complete Guide to Sports Nutrition by Anita Bean, which does also emphasize on not using antibacterial mouthwash since it removes the beneficial bacteria in the mouth which convert nitrate to nitrite. I‘m drinking beetroot juice since 3 years now and asked myself if beetroot capsules might be an alternative.

For people who don't like drinking beetroot juice, you can also regularly (French) kiss with people with healthy oral microbiomes [0][1]. Best to really get in there. [0] https://www.adelaide.edu.au/newsroom/news/list/2024/02/20/mo... [1] https://microbiomejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186...

We need a dating app with this filter

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by cjbgkagh »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #37
MengerSponge wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that was the first and last time that no-calorie sweeteners had deleterious population-level effects

High calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects. Is there any evidence that modern low calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects, and what are they compared to high calorie sweeteners?

Anecdotally I get gut dybiosis (microbiome imbalance) that notably only occurs when using artificial sweeteners and stops when I stop taking it, I’ve talked to many others who have noticed the same thing. Gut dysbiosis can cause chronic systemic inflammation which is rather bad for the body, not sure if it’s worse than the sugar it replaces, but it shouldn’t be assumed that the problem is solved by low calories. I think it’s important to limit both, preferably to near zero.

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Post by silenced_trope »

I started consuming Beet Chews recently. I'm not convinced of it though.

I think it's just one of those things where I see a YouTube video and go to Amazon to add a new supplement to my life. Then once the supply of the supplement is up I choose not to re-up on it. That's what I'm planning for the Beet Chews too.

I wonder really how much it really lowers BP and what quantity to consume?

The linked article doesn't specify how much was consumed? A single cup? A liter? Likewise I'm just consuming 2 Beet Chews per day per the suggested serving size. But who knows if that really is the "minimum effective dose". There is value to the placebo effect of course, I'm taking something in order to convince myself I'm healthier.

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Post by SapporoChris »

Etheryte wrote: post #52
bognition wrote: post #3

Back in school I was often told the lead pipes in Roman aqueducts likely played a key role in the fall of Roman. We know lead is a poison with negative long term effects on cognition. The aqueducts were also responsible for Romes ability to proliferate and grow. Lead was both a blessing and a curse. I wonder what future generations will say about our highly enriched and processed diets. Calories have never been cheap…

The lead pipe thing is one of the best known urban legends that's both completely false and also constantly making rounds on the internet.

Not sure where you get completely false. Like most urban legends it's a little truth and a lot of falsehoods. Lead pipes are a known health hazard. Lead pipes didn't lead to the fall of the Roman Empire.

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Post by lamp_book »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #37
MengerSponge wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that was the first and last time that no-calorie sweeteners had deleterious population-level effects

High calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects. Is there any evidence that modern low calorie sweeteners have deleterious population-level effects, and what are they compared to high calorie sweeteners?

I wonder if any Romans evidence had any evidence of population-level delirium from lead consumption...

Re: Beetroot juice lowers blood pressure by changing oral microbiome: study

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Post by underlipton »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #22

Comfortable and uninterrupted sleeping, eating mostly plants, and getting your heart rate up and muscles moving for half an hour per day. Anything else is going from 90% healthy to 99%.

Biphasic sleep was probably more common before artificial light, and you really need to be moving every 30-45 minutes. Even just a couple of minutes of walking or doing some chore counts.

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Post by rafaelmn »

pstorm wrote: post #46
dinfinity wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to add: Stretching or some other kind of flexibility improving activities. Muscles moving for half an hour a day doesn't (necessarily) do anything for that (may even make it worse if you're doing heavy stuff). The effects on quality of life of a bit of flexibility are huge . Back pain, knee pain, shoulder pain, "RSI", and so many other ails are often just pretty much permanently cramped muscles negatively af…

Being flexible is important, but the latest research shows that heavy lifting improves flexibility about as much as a dedicated stretching program: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9935664/

On the phone so can't see study details - what do day consider strength training ? I used to lift heavy (well by regular people standards) and for example my squat mobility was shit. Trying to improve that with significant load would have ripped my tendons I feel. Decreasing the load to the point where it wouldn't might as well be called stretching cause it wouldn't qualify as heavy lifting. Also most powerlifters I know have shit mobility.
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