Been daily driving an M1 for two years at this point; no complaints.
With a Linux distro on it?
Asahi Fedora here, works good.
Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
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Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#52If you are thinking about getting a Tuxedo, I suggest to get something else. I got one because they promised fwupd support, upstreamed drivers and maybe coreboot support. None of that is working even years afterwards. People from the kernel got so fed up with them, they considered blacklisting them [1]. That seemed like a wakeup call as they now at least started with upstreaming drivers. If you want to change some se…
Two of the reasons I eventually gave up on Desktop Linux, were virtualization getting good enough for just keep using Windows instead, back in the day with VMware Workstation and Virtual Box, nowadays with WSL (macOS is anyway UNIX enough for me to care otherwise). And exactly the same experience with OEM vendors that were supposed to be Linux friendly, on my case the whole netbooks effort, where graphics, video deco…
Before the Tuxedo, I used an old Lenovo. I didn't check before if it works well with Linux, but it worked flawlessly. I am so used to devices working well and not having to think much about drivers. That's probably why I am disappointed by Tuxedo. They market themselves to Linux users but until recently they did not emphasize upstreaming and embracing standards.
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#53Been daily driving an M1 for two years at this point; no complaints.
With a Linux distro on it?
Yes, with Asahi (Now a Fedora was Arch initially). Think the fingerprint reader still didn't work but not really tried. Also only one external monitor (or DisplayLink) but the screen, sound, battery life, performace all best any x86 I have used.
Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Two of the reasons I eventually gave up on Desktop Linux, were virtualization getting good enough for just keep using Windows instead, back in the day with VMware Workstation and Virtual Box, nowadays with WSL (macOS is anyway UNIX enough for me to care otherwise). And exactly the same experience with OEM vendors that were supposed to be Linux friendly, on my case the whole netbooks effort, where graphics, video deco…
I've been running Linux on my laptop and on my workstation since the 90's. Still using it as my main driver. Fedora Kinoite is my distro of choice, and Lenovo AMD Thinkpad T14s the laptop. Everything works flawless, and it's still pretty fast even though it's two years old already. And I do not miss at all the Microsoft bullsh*t on tracking and advertising. Or the general sluggishness of Windows.
I used to be quite cynical about these posts. I used Linux as my main desktop from 1994-2007 and switched to Mac then. I would periodically try on laptops Linux again, but there were always things broken in bad ways.
Early this year I bought a ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 AMD. In contrast to when I had a T14 Gen 1 AMD early 2020s, everything just works. All the hardware works, suspend/resume works, all the hardware comes up after a resume, etc.
Lately I have been using my ThinkPad much more than my MacBook Pro. NixOS is a superpower to me and having NixOS on a laptop is living the dream.
Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#55If you are thinking about getting a Tuxedo, I suggest to get something else. I got one because they promised fwupd support, upstreamed drivers and maybe coreboot support. None of that is working even years afterwards. People from the kernel got so fed up with them, they considered blacklisting them [1]. That seemed like a wakeup call as they now at least started with upstreaming drivers. If you want to change some se…
Seconded. Stay away from Tuxedo. You get better hardware support with many other vendors.
Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#56Do the Snapdragons implement TSO/Total Store Order like the Apple chips to allow Rosetta 2 like x86 compatibility?
No. But what x86/x64 support that is available on Windows/Linux isn't as slow as you might think.
Do you have any data or reviews to link for that?
I'd really like to replace my old Thinkpad with a long-running, lightweight Linux laptop that can also do some gaming on the side (think Witcher 3 on good settings) but Snapdragon has not lived up to the hype AFAIK.
But big thumbs up to all the Linux devs that are working on improving the situation!
Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#57Does Linux arm64 run Windows x86 applications in Wine? I mean, I'd be surprised if it did, but I need that. Otherwise an arm64 Linux laptop is super tempting.
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#58It's not precisely a laptop, but I have an augmented reality cyberdeck using XReal AR glasses running into a battery powered Raspberry Pi 5 that I built, which runs pretty well. I feel like the Pis have long been a canary in the coalmine for Linux and ARM (first ARMHF and now ARM64) support.
That sounds… awesome! I want one; links to a part list or anything?
It's easy to find the company (https://www.xreal.com/us/air/) but they sell different models, and I'd be interested in gp's model and user experience.
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#59I am fed up with the linux world. I run Ubuntu on a randomly selected Thinkpad, everything works, outta the box. Why should i buy a new laptop because it holds another cpu doing the exact workload? I cant code faster, cant talk faster with people and being productive 8hrs strait is just a lie. Since almost 10years i read about pre-installed devices, but i dont see them anywhere. Most companies dont have business linu…
You don't "have to" do anything, you can stay with the setup you're using right now just fine, I don't get the point of this post, you're fighting ghosts.
Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops
#60If you are thinking about getting a Tuxedo, I suggest to get something else. I got one because they promised fwupd support, upstreamed drivers and maybe coreboot support. None of that is working even years afterwards. People from the kernel got so fed up with them, they considered blacklisting them [1]. That seemed like a wakeup call as they now at least started with upstreaming drivers. If you want to change some se…
Two of the reasons I eventually gave up on Desktop Linux, were virtualization getting good enough for just keep using Windows instead, back in the day with VMware Workstation and Virtual Box, nowadays with WSL (macOS is anyway UNIX enough for me to care otherwise). And exactly the same experience with OEM vendors that were supposed to be Linux friendly, on my case the whole netbooks effort, where graphics, video deco…
Funny to read replies to your comment. One can be sure that on HN for every single critical comment about Linux viability one gets multiple responses claiming that Linux is perfect and without issues.
Inb4: I have used Linux exclusively from 2019 to 2024. It wasn't that bad but it wasn't flawless. At least once per month I met some issue that took few hours to solve. Currently on Win11, zero problems (yes, I am using pirated LTSC IoT version, how did you know?)