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Re: AI.gov

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Post by notahacker »

dustedcodes wrote: post #35

Oh man... we here in the UK and EU look at the US with envy. Our governments are so inept to even understand basic economics (currently the UK is trying to tax itself to growth), whilst the US government is enabling their own people and US businesses to flourish in emerging markets like AI.

Kind of amusing to bring up grasp of basic economics in praise of the Trump administration. Brits and Europeans have many opinions and emotions on that subject; envy isn't really one of them

I mean, our politicians have realized that they should attempt to take credit for AI too, without taxing any penguins or manufacturers' supply chains!

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#52

Post by ben_w »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

> The United States is in a race to achieve global dominance in artificial intelligence. Whoever has the largest AI ecosystem will set the global standards and reap broad economic and security benefits Correction. Whoever has the largest AI will be the first to play the "defect" strategy in the Prisoner's Dilemma, and will thus be the first to usher in a new era of an arms race where everyone loses except those who a…

> and will thus be the first to usher in a new era of an arms race where everyone loses except those who are at the very top and can take advantage of the losers.

Unless the AI is stupid, in which case the leader pushes the button and finds that either the AI hallucinates a solution that plain doesn't work, and/or turns out to be acting according to a completely different set of moral values than they wanted, values which can be the straw-est of straw men versions of either your own or you opponent's policies that nobody would ever actually expect to meet in a real political takeover scenario.

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Post by vouaobrasil »

ben_w wrote: post #52
vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

> The United States is in a race to achieve global dominance in artificial intelligence. Whoever has the largest AI ecosystem will set the global standards and reap broad economic and security benefits Correction. Whoever has the largest AI will be the first to play the "defect" strategy in the Prisoner's Dilemma, and will thus be the first to usher in a new era of an arms race where everyone loses except those who a…

> and will thus be the first to usher in a new era of an arms race where everyone loses except those who are at the very top and can take advantage of the losers. Unless the AI is stupid, in which case the leader pushes the button and finds that either the AI hallucinates a solution that plain doesn't work, and/or turns out to be acting according to a completely different set of moral values than they wanted, values…

True, but the arms race does not have to be solely about the leader's use of AI. It is mainly the forced acceleration of economic development that will mainly lead to superficial changes in the long run that won't really be beneficial to anyone, and use a lot of energy in the mean time.

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Post by icameron »

The first words of the header are Donald J Trump, then 3 pictures of Trump... and a blurry kid. This is a just a propaganda site of an egomaniac try to associate with the latest technology.

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Post by JohnFen »

mrdependable wrote: post #31

This feels dystopian seeing so many company logos scrolling across a government announcement. Not to mention they seem to have made up their mind already what the future with AI will look like.

Things are looking more grim with each passing day.

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Post by JohnFen »

dustedcodes wrote: post #35

Oh man... we here in the UK and EU look at the US with envy. Our governments are so inept to even understand basic economics (currently the UK is trying to tax itself to growth), whilst the US government is enabling their own people and US businesses to flourish in emerging markets like AI.

> we here in the UK and EU look at the US with envy.

Many in the US, including myself, are looking at the EU with increasing amounts of envy.

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Post by JohnFen »

jMyles wrote: post #30

The whole point of AI - of the emergence of the internet in general - is to free the human creative and collaborative spirit from the yoke of legacy states. I do not believe that AI will tolerate state coercion. I wish our elder statesmen and -women were more graceful at accepting the writing on the wall. As a thought exercise: does anybody seriously think that the US state will exist and be solvent in 500 years? How…

> does anybody seriously think that the US state will exist and be solvent in 500 years?

Not if we stay on the path the current administration is dragging us down, no. I'd be surprised if we lasted another 50.

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Post by afro88 »

th0ma5 wrote: post #43
aisisbsbll wrote: post #29

> reap broad economic and security benefits Does anyone still buy this? The economy is disproportionately controlled by a few (adjust the threshold you check at, it remains a large disparity for awhile). Economic benefits are often at odds with benefits for the median American. Check the number of tech layoffs and H1B approvals this year. And for security, I had to move my family to a rural town just so we didn’t hav…

Statistically in the US at least crime is at an all time low.

Source? That's genuinely surprising as someone living outside the US
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