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AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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post #37

Do the AI friend apps take people out of society or were the people who were using the friend apps not part of society to begin with? I honestly can't imagine using an AI app to ever qualify as what I would determine to be what I deem a friend.

The existence of drug users does not make it a responsible act to install all-you-can-eat cocaine buffets in their apartments.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

#53
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Even early computers of the 90s and 00s tended to reduce face-to-face contact. At least a lot of children started to spend more time on the computer than hanging out in real life. (The latter wasn't obliterated, but reduced.) 2. Airline and rapid travel encourages people to move away from friends and family because they can be visited or reuinted on occasion more often. 3. Not sure how you were enthusiastic about…

Hmm so it seems technology is empowering the individual to the level of killing society? I mean it in the sense that we came to this development over millennia of social fueled evolution, and now technology allows us to get rid of all this "legacy". I'm only thinking loud here, but it seems conservatism should have a better target with this, or at least more close to reality, instead of only attacking the consequence…

That is true. But the downside is that technology is also at the same time pushing biological life aside, because its development is fundamentally unsustainable. So it also means eventual complete subservience to it without any true freedom.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

#54

Get rid of cars in town and city centers. Then you're halfway to the solution.

Fundamentally people don't want to be around each other, certainly not strangers, and the perceived (likely even real) consequences of it are an expected net loss.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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The top two comments here both suggest that the people using chatbots in place of social interaction were already a priori socially isolated and AI has no effect on it. It's merely a "symptom" or after the fact consequence. I deeply, fundamentally disagree with that. Humans are one step mathematical operations that take in an input, transform to an output, and are done. Human life is an endless continuous cascade of…

> Can you get out of the house and socialize even when endless media and parasocial relationships are just a screen away?

The problem is when the junk food is cheaper/more easily available. There are plenty of people I could spend all day with and enjoy it. They are busy living life. The people who have time for me are usually the ones I feel drained after talking to. So I prefer to stay away from them.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

#57

This is a symptom of alienation, imo, not a unique problem from AI. There's a theory that we're becoming increasingly removed from our work -- we have less control over what we get to build, we have less control over how the products we build function. Because we don't influence what we create as much, work becomes much more about getting a pay check. We no longer work to craft , we work simply to build the things th…

> This is a symptom of alienation, imo, not a unique problem from AI.

But AI exacerbates it, which is the point of the article.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Fascism killed about a thousand people per year in recent years [1]. Loneliness killed about a million per year (870 k) [2]. [1]: https://deathtofascism.com/files/2021-THE_YEAR_IN_FASCIST&FA... [2]: https://www.who.int/news/item/30-06-2025-social-connection-l...

In the future, fascists will call themselves anti-fascists

In the future?

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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All the comments like "the problem is not the tech, it's the humans", "those people were self-isolating already", "it's a symptom", etc. are missing the point.

AI didn't create the problem, but it makes the problem much worse by making it accessible at all times, making it seem believable, and disconnecting humans from reality (in a fantasy universe where the bot only praises them and succumbs to their every wish) to a degree never before possible.

And companies know how to exploit this to make money off these people, so their interest is in deepening the level of engagement, not putting guardrails.

The story of the 14-year old who committed suicide in order to "join" his bot lover sounds very similar to a drug overdose in order to escape reality.

You can say "drugs aren't the problem, humans are". Sure. But just like I don't want my kid carrying around a bottle of ecstasy or meth pills which he might be tempted to pop at any moment, neither do I want him carrying around a bottle of AI pills with potentially just as damaging effects.

Re: AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society

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post #10

Mmm. I think fascism is doing it better.

No. Fascism killed about a thousand people per year in recent years [1]. Loneliness killed about a million per year (870 k) [2]. [1]: https://deathtofascism.com/files/2021-THE_YEAR_IN_FASCIST&FA... [2]: https://www.who.int/news/item/30-06-2025-social-connection-l...

*recent years... hm... what happens if we map history to now (rhymes likes chimes)... what should we expect to see then?

And to be frank. Only fascists fraternize with fascists. It probably also contributes to the loneliness epidemic when no one will be their friend because of their racist/nationalist/sexist beliefs except other such degenerates (who aren't really their friends at all).

You aren't friends with fascists. Fascists have no friends, only temporary allies. NEVER TRUST A FASCIST: EVER.

Fascism is far far worse than loneliness for society. Fascism causes world wars. Loneliness doesn't cause that level of societal destruction. Fascism is evil.

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