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GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by runako »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #44
runako wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I haven't used the most recent version of GIMP yet. Also, I'm not a designer and that colors my position. What I've found to be the case in prior versions is that it's not sufficient for many minor edits, because it's not 100.0% compatible with the PSD file formats. Even 99% isn't enough in some cases, unfortunately. Since I'm typically editing a file created by a designer in Photoshop, and since I might…

Isn't that a separate issue? It sounds like it is sufficient for the edits, but not for the task of working with other people who use / content made in Photoshop.

You're right that in some sense it is a separate issue. I could do my edits in GIMP some of the time. However, since I have to keep Photoshop installed for interoperability, there's no real reason to also install GIMP.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by Avshalom »

armored_mammal wrote: post #20
dguaraglia wrote: post #6

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Yep, it does Windows->Single-Window Mode. So. Much. Better.

Yeah, the multi-window thing only ever made sense for tiling window managers. And even with that it was a bit of a stretch. That said, I don't think there's a more under-estimated or misunderstood program around.

I'm actually pretty sure it was a adopted from the original multi-window interface of Photoshop on Mac.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by wlesieutre »

crazygringo wrote: post #21

This is a great move. Serious question: how did this not happen 5 years ago? Is there some technical reason? It's so hard for me to understand why the creators wouldn't have always had this as the #1 feature improvement to make ASAP.

There was Seashore, which was a simpler image editor based on GIMP, but native integration never seemed to be a priority for GIMP. I think there's a commonly held view on open source projects that they're all doing you a service, and if you don't like the tool they wrote you can fix it yourself or use something else. I can't say there's anything particularly wrong with that view, but it doesn't always lead to the greatest user experience.

I can only assume that someone (or several someones) with the time and knowhow to get this done finally came along and decided it was worth investing their time in. I doubt it's as exciting as working on the image editing features.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by [deleted] »

jon6 wrote: post #39

OT but is this an official signed application that can work with gatekeeper on 10.8? I recently discovered that my open source project won't work by default on osx 10.8 without me paying $99 to get an apple certificate, which I'm not very interested in doing. What are open source/free projects supposed to do about gatekeeper?

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Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by acidblue »

adgar wrote: post #34
forgotusername wrote: post #27

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I'm confused. You double clicked an application icon, and the application opened? You seem to be conflating the popular hate for focus being stolen due to some non-consensual event, and the consensual starting of an app. If GIMP didn't have a splash screen, there'd be no indication it was loading at all (and it's one big fat app.. several generations of code including a huge chunk of Python loaded at boot).

It sounds like your parent poster is saying it shows the splash screen over all applications and there's nothing you can do about it. Which is needlessly inconsiderate.

Actually the modal behavior is pervasive in this application which is very irritating. Hopefully the GIMP devs can fix this. I opened the app on my 13" MBP and the tools all persisted to take foreground. Meaning, all other applications stayed below the GIMP. I can't use it like this. Oh well. But, I a looking forward to it being fixed.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by w1ntermute »

MikeCapone wrote: post #23
sliverstorm wrote: post #14

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Who still thinks that's acceptable behavior Adobe still does, and of all apps, GIMP is going to be one of the most likely to emulate them.

Photoshop's splash screen doesn't stay on top of all other windows and steal focus, at least not in the version that I have. If anyone from GIMP is reading this, I strongly recommend that you fix that or at least allow us to disable the splash screen. Thank you.

Have you tried this: http://kuoi.com/~kamikaze/read.php?id=129

Looks kind of old, but it might still work.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by msbarnett »

pnathan wrote: post #49
jon6 wrote: post #39

OT but is this an official signed application that can work with gatekeeper on 10.8? I recently discovered that my open source project won't work by default on osx 10.8 without me paying $99 to get an apple certificate, which I'm not very interested in doing. What are open source/free projects supposed to do about gatekeeper?

I disabled Gatekeeper's hollering on 10.8. I suspect most power users will do the same, but I have no data for that suspicion.

"Power Users" can have the best of both worlds by simply right-clicking and selecting "Open" to whitelist specific non-signed apps that they want to trust.

I'd mostly expect people who turn it off entirely to fit the "don't really know what they're doing but like to do whatever a forum post tells them to do" archetype.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by w1ntermute »

rcgs wrote: post #5
jfaucett wrote: post #3

I love it! GIMP is one of those tools that's "almost" a photohop killer, not quite yet, but this is a big step in the right direction. Good job GIMP team! As an asside, I think the plugin API and scheme joice is great and a blast to develope with I'd just like to see others jump on board. EDIT: I thought I'd add this since there seems to be a large discussion below as to the type of user for which GIMP is applicable.…

As someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.

As someone who uses GIMP on a regular basis, I find my experience to be exactly the opposite - Photoshop's workflow is very irritating. I think it's just a matter of what you're used to.
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